Camera Security Systems???

   / Camera Security Systems??? #21  
And one huge disadvantage-- you have to pay a monthly fee for a cloud subscription service. Not my kind of gig.
With just a few cameras it's often free. And the crooks can't steal the cloud easily.
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And that old DVR? You can leave it out with some wires attached, preferably a monitor on top-- so the burglars can steal it instead of your new system. :D
Also set up some dummy cams for them to mess with, while being monitored by the real hidden cams.

I have not looked yet but are there any decent cams I can screw into my floodlight bases and get powerline networking?
 
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Once I get power I wil go with Ubiquiti (UniFi). I have a fairly extensive network at my home and they are great. Commercial grade and lots of flexibility. No hiccups. You can easily add a beam antenna between the shop and the house to get WiFi out to the shop if needed. There really isn稚 a need to run a buried wire anymore. I would not put yet another hole in my house for the purpose. That said if you want wired, Ubiquiti does have lots of wired options.

Yeah, the hole into two buildings I don't like.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #23  
Arlo (by Netgear) has one GREAT advantage NO WIRES (if you want that), they can be battery operated and anywhere you can get a signal you can easily put a camera.
I bought into the prior Netgear model, which they discontinued after about 2 years and are incompatible with anything. Netgear made the new system, which is virtually identical to the old system totally incompatible. So I'm stuck with 100's of dollars of useless equipment. It was great while it was supported, just carry a camera and place it. I got pretty good battery life.

But I pity the suckers that heavily invested in them and are stuck worse than I am.


The Ring system, though expensive, seems to be a decent bang for the buck.
Old fart here computer challenged Soooo with that said don"t know a lot about arlo/netgear.Hope it stays running for a few years.I am sure then next biggest and great options will be available by then.LOL
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #24  
And one huge disadvantage-- you have to pay a monthly fee for a cloud subscription service. Not my kind of gig.
I pay NO monthly subscription.But i do not have cloud.The only clouds I know are the ones over our house.
 
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I pay NO monthly subscription.But i do not have cloud.

Hey Coobie, maybe missed it, what do you have.

Signed, computer challenged old fart...
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #26  
Hey Coobie, maybe missed it, what do you have.

Signed, computer challenged old fart...
Arlo pro with 2 cameras with base unit comes with alarm on base unit you can set off from your phone.Paid around $325 from best buy last spring.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #27  
Old fart here computer challenged Soooo with that said don"t know a lot about arlo/netgear.Hope it stays running for a few years.I am sure then next biggest and great options will be available by then.LOL
Oh the system ran fine. Netgear just decided to stop selling it (and supporting it), and started selling a very slightly different system which is incompatible.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #28  
Check out Synology NAS server. It is like a hard drive you attach to your ethernet system, but it does *way* more than that. Their Surveillance system add-on is easy to use. I like it. All in all the Synology and its capacity is pretty impressive.

And that old DVR? You can leave it out with some wires attached, preferably a monitor on top-- so the burglars can steal it instead of your new system. :D

I have a synology DS213J. I got it a few years ago and looking forward to implementing the Surveillance Station. Then I found out that it was an extra purchase on top of the server. Is that still the case? Or is it free now?
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #29  
Check out Synology NAS server. It is like a hard drive you attach to your ethernet system, but it does *way* more than that. Their Surveillance system add-on is easy to use. I like it. All in all the Synology and its capacity is pretty impressive.

And that old DVR? You can leave it out with some wires attached, preferably a monitor on top-- so the burglars can steal it instead of your new system. :D
At the risk of derailing the OP's quest for a simple set up, I do have a QNAP NAS for my music storage. I probably could use this for video surveillance storage as well. Then I just have to figure out the brains and how to hook up the cameras.
 
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At the risk of derailing the OP's quest for a simple set up, I do have a QNAP NAS for my music storage. I probably could use this for video surveillance storage as well. Then I just have to figure out the brains and how to hook up the cameras.

You guys are so far above me it's impossible to derail.

Thanks for everyone's comments and suggestions. I'm sooooo over my head. :)
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #31  
You guys are so far above me it's impossible to derail.

Thanks for everyone's comments and suggestions. I'm sooooo over my head. :)
Ha ha Richard... I sort of am too. :laughing:
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #33  
I have a very poor cellular internet connection at my farm. I use a router that can maintain a VPN connection back to my office to make it accessible over the internet (my cellular provider will not provide a public IP address to my connection). I use Vivotek brand cameras. :: VIVOTEK :: All are 1920x1080 resolution or higher. I run a small form factor Acer desktop for my video storage and video server needs. I'm able to stream 6 cameras at a time without issue.

I would recommend buying from here:
B&H Photo

I like Vivotek cameras because they can be used in many different ways, and can combine different methods to suit your needs. Cameras have a built in microSD card slot and the cameras can record directly to the microSD. Cameras can be powered by an external 12V DC power supply at the camera, or via Power-over-Ethernet. Cameras can send video data directly to a network attached storage appliance, and they can also send data to a server/video recorder. There are dedicated network recorders, and any Windows PC can act as a DVR with their included software. There is no limit to the number of cameras you can configure in a system. There are many styles of cameras with a variety of lens options to allow you to tailor the views to exactly what you need.

You can mix and match and setup exactly what you need, and the overall cost isn't bad at all for the quality you end up with.

For those that have multiple structures needing coverage, I advise "direct burial ethernet cable". It is UV resistant and is filled with a gel that prevents moisture intrusion. It only needs to be below the sod (no trenching) and can carry both data and power to your cameras. Here is some good stuff:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013IYY0MS/
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #34  
Ubiquiti also uses POE, but this requires wires. You could do something like this. House: modem to router, router POE to beam antenna pointed at shop. Shop beam antenna to shop router/switch which then can provide POE to the shop and power all cameras. POE is an Ethernet cable that sends data AND power...so you don’t have to run separate power. However said device must support POE. This is why I just stick with Ubiquiti for everything. I know it will all work.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #35  
If you could coax Willard out out the easy chair, he could add some security? Just spit balling here....
 
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If you could coax Willard out out the easy chair, he could add some security? Just spit balling here....

His most aggressive act is peeing on tires.... ;)
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #37  
Ubiquiti also uses POE, but this requires wires. You could do something like this. House: modem to router, router POE to beam antenna pointed at shop. Shop beam antenna to shop router/switch which then can provide POE to the shop and power all cameras. POE is an Ethernet cable that sends data AND power...so you don稚 have to run separate power. However said device must support POE. This is why I just stick with Ubiquiti for everything. I know it will all work.

Yeah, I run their gear for all my network stuff here, professional quality gear at prosumer prices. As far as I know they're also the only ones to offer mobile app access without a monthly subscription since all their stuff uses WebRTC for p2p connections (at least on the unifi side).

I ended up not going with them since they didn't do monitoring as well but they were a serious consideration.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #38  
I'm sooooo over my head. :)

My first post raised the question about maybe getting some help. This is one of those circumstances where a little $$ spent can offset incredible aggravation.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #39  
Ubiquiti also uses POE, but this requires wires. You could do something like this. House: modem to router, router POE to beam antenna pointed at shop. Shop beam antenna to shop router/switch which then can provide POE to the shop and power all cameras. POE is an Ethernet cable that sends data AND power...so you don’t have to run separate power. However said device must support POE. This is why I just stick with Ubiquiti for everything. I know it will all work.

That is exactly what I do.
 
   / Camera Security Systems??? #40  
I have a synology DS213J. I got it a few years ago and looking forward to implementing the Surveillance Station. Then I found out that it was an extra purchase on top of the server. Is that still the case? Or is it free now?

At first it was free unlimited. Last I knew it was free up to 2 cameras. Above that requires a camera license. It's really a good all-around system.
 

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