Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100

   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #1  

bigwhitehd

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I cannot decide which to buy. I currently own a bx2360 hst, a New Holland tl80 mech shuttle, and an older MF 255. I want a good midsize tractor to brush hog with, run a box blade, do fel work, and mow, and rake hay, and carry 5x5 round bails.

I spec'd a M6040 with hydro shuttle, 4wd, fel, bucket, spear, quick attach, 2 sets of remotes, and a top...$35,500

a Mx5100 hst, 4wd, loaded r1's, fel, top, 2 sets of remotes, bucket and spear.....$30,800

Both prices including a land pride 7' rotarty cutter, and a taylor 7' box blade.

My question is what do you guys think? Is the m6040 too big to go get through the woods? Would you even consider driving a tractor this size in your yard with out tearing the grass up? Would both these tractors run a 7' cutter in thick grass? Both tractors stable on steep grades with that much weight on the back?

What say you TBN?
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #2  
hi. you have 3 existing tractors. what are your specific needs beyond your current machines that another tractor will do? will your new mid size tractor solve present challenges that your existing equipment cannot do? if you are looking for something "big", M series are certainly a cut ahead of grand L or Mx series.
but......let us know more specifically why you want to add more equip (& a payment) to your circumstance. best of luck!
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #3  
I cannot decide which to buy. I currently own a bx2360 hst, a New Holland tl80 mech shuttle, and an older MF 255. I want a good midsize tractor to brush hog with, run a box blade, do fel work, and mow, and rake hay, and carry 5x5 round bails.

I spec'd a M6040 with hydro shuttle, 4wd, fel, bucket, spear, quick attach, 2 sets of remotes, and a top...$35,500

a Mx5100 hst, 4wd, loaded r1's, fel, top, 2 sets of remotes, bucket and spear.....$30,800

Both prices including a land pride 7' rotarty cutter, and a taylor 7' box blade.

My question is what do you guys think? Is the m6040 too big to go get through the woods? Would you even consider driving a tractor this size in your yard with out tearing the grass up? Would both these tractors run a 7' cutter in thick grass? Both tractors stable on steep grades with that much weight on the back?

What say you TBN?

First, the M6040 is far more tractor than the MX5100 as far as features. If you compare the physical size they are not that much different. So.....

>the M6040 is not too big to go through the woods compared to a MX5100.

>since you want to carry large bales, check the FEL specs of the FEL available to both

>anything that big should stay off of the yard

>the M6040 will be far less likely to bog down with a 7' cutter. Compare the PTO HP of both.

>any tractor is dangerous on steep grades. The best way to deal with it is to mow "up and down" rather than side hill - you probably already know that from your other tractors. A rotary mower is generally on the ground or lifted only slightly so may actually increase stability if the weight is lower than the axles.

All of this is my opinion, of course. Others may have more insight.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100
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I have a lot of acreage to keep up with, and the MF is old with over 10k hours on it. It is getting in its age where i mainly run a hay tedder and small brush hog with it. The fields where we bail are sometimes a long distance from the barns they are kept in, so that means i have to load the goose neck, have someone drive the truck, then follow it back to barn, unload and start over again.

I will still want to bail with the NH. But i would also like to be able to pull the baler if i have to with the new tractor. Or pull my older MF model 12 square baler.

The new tractor's duties would be mainly fel work on roads, box blading, a lot of bush hogging, and running a fella disc mower and hay rake.

The NH is a large cab tractor, not ideal for upkeep on the roads to and from the hay fields that need some work. This is the reason for the midsize.

I also want a more mobile tractor. The NH is heavy. To much for a bumper pull trailer imo.

I would guess the M6040 would be all my new bumper pull trailer would want, but it too might be a little too much tongue weight.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100
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#5  
GWDixon- I noticed in your sig that you own a 8' land leveler. I really want one of these. How do you like it? Will it cut down really compacted material? Do you think it would work on crumbled asphault?
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100
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#6  
hi. you have 3 existing tractors. what are your specific needs beyond your current machines that another tractor will do? will your new mid size tractor solve present challenges that your existing equipment cannot do? if you are looking for something "big", M series are certainly a cut ahead of grand L or Mx series.
but......let us know more specifically why you want to add more equip (& a payment) to your circumstance. best of luck!

The Bx stays at the house. Farm is 30mins away. The NH is the only tractor at the farm with a fel. The massey is old, and at times unreliable. So really all i have is one Big tractor. It does everything right now, and sometimes smaller is better in some tasks.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #7  
Just to muddy the water a little, I think you should also consider the M7040. I currently own a MX5100 and if we expand the farm again I will probably be looking at the M7040. It's going to be interesting to see how the Mx5100 handles the new airblast sprayer. The M7040 looks like a great machine and I think you can get HST with it.
CJ
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #8  
I cannot decide which to buy. I currently own a bx2360 hst, a New Holland tl80 mech shuttle, and an older MF 255. I want a good midsize tractor to brush hog with, run a box blade, do fel work, and mow, and rake hay, and carry 5x5 round bails.

I spec'd a M6040 with hydro shuttle, 4wd, fel, bucket, spear, quick attach, 2 sets of remotes, and a top...$35,500

a Mx5100 hst, 4wd, loaded r1's, fel, top, 2 sets of remotes, bucket and spear.....$30,800

Both prices including a land pride 7' rotarty cutter, and a taylor 7' box blade.

My question is what do you guys think? Is the m6040 too big to go get through the woods? Would you even consider driving a tractor this size in your yard with out tearing the grass up? Would both these tractors run a 7' cutter in thick grass? Both tractors stable on steep grades with that much weight on the back?

What say you TBN?

The M6040 is will pull a 7footer no problem,I pull an 8ft will my M5040 in stuff over the hood,I even hook up to a 15ft batwing and clean-up the lighter stuff. I mow my yard all the time with a 12footer 5040 and ds1440.JPG its just going to depend on soil type if it will hold it up without rutting. The 6040 is not going to be near limited as the mx5100 will be,you'll have the weight and loader capacity there. May I ask why you skipped over the 5140 should fall in between the prices mentioned? The 5140 has slightly smaller tires but same frame as 6040,7040. My 7040cab,5040 open-stationtractor2.JPG
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #9  
I have a M5040 and I love it! Great tractor. I think you would be very happy with a M6040.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #10  
GWDixon- I noticed in your sig that you own a 8' land leveler. I really want one of these. How do you like it? Will it cut down really compacted material? Do you think it would work on crumbled asphault?

Not sure this leveler is what you have in mind. I use it to flatten plowed or uneven fields. It works best with loose material. It makes a field look like a parking lot.

It may be even be homemade. Got it for $50 in an eBay auction - I was the only bidder.

It is controlled by using a drawbar on the 3PH. Lifting or lowering the drawbar will control the cut. And it is VERY heavy.

You can see that getting it back to the property on the trailer was an adventure.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #11  
now that your needs are expressed, i would 1st say go M series over MX. have had both, and would never go back. not sure what the increment price jump is from 6040 to 7040 but may be worth considering. same frame/engine, just more hp & 7040 has limited ft differential. the jump from 7040 to 85/9540 is big and a considerable price jump. you already know that Kubotas are a bit light on their feet, so whatever you get, consider some form of rear ballast. and strongly recommend the hyd. shuttle option, the fel & 4wd goes w/out saying. sounds like you are on the right track & wish you the best in the considerable investment. go M series & you won't be sorry.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #12  
M6040 comes with a wider selection of bigger loaders. Big plus. Heavier tractor all around.. Physical size is so close to the mx it is not worth debating.
A more durable tractor in my opinion and if you can swing it go for the M7040. Same tractor more grrrr.:D:thumbsup:
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #13  
The TL is a good tractor, I understand what you are dealing with, I've got a MF5455 (100 hp) and a Kubota L5030HSTC, both with cabs, loaders, 4wd. My Kubota is the same size as the MX5100 and is a handy little size around a yard but it is very bumpy tedding or raking. The small tires and short wheel base work against it for that. It can handle round bales fine, but again, loading wagons in the field it is bumpy chasing bales.

I put the big tractor on the Kubotas bushhog now and again, and have started using it more often as the soft-ride loader, cushy seat, big tires and long wheelbase are much easier on the back in rough ground or driving on the road at 25 mph.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #14  
The TL is a good tractor, I understand what you are dealing with, I've got a MF5455 (100 hp) and a Kubota L5030HSTC, both with cabs, loaders, 4wd. My Kubota is the same size as the MX5100 and is a handy little size around a yard but it is very bumpy tedding or raking. The small tires and short wheel base work against it for that. It can handle round bales fine, but again, loading wagons in the field it is bumpy chasing bales.

I put the big tractor on the Kubotas bushhog now and again, and have started using it more often as the soft-ride loader, cushy seat, big tires and long wheelbase are much easier on the back in rough ground or driving on the road at 25 mph.

I think the MXX40 series comes with a soft riding spring-loaded seat. Mine did. Air ride is an option also if my memory is correct.

There was a very basic M7040 on the dealer's lot a couple of days ago that had a standard seat so maybe the softer ride is an option on the bare bones models.
 
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the reason i am looking at the 6040 is because it was only $800.00 more than the m5140 spec'd the same.

I will see about the m7040. When you guys talk about the front diff are you guys saying it has positive traction on the front, whereas every other tractor i have seen has an open front differential?

Dixon-I was mistaken, i am looking for a land plane grader blade.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #16  
the reason i am looking at the 6040 is because it was only $800.00 more than the m5140 spec'd the same.

I will see about the m7040. When you guys talk about the front diff are you guys saying it has positive traction on the front, whereas every other tractor i have seen has an open front differential?

Dixon-I was mistaken, i am looking for a land plane grader blade.

I don't know about anything below the 7040, but from there up have the limited slip front differential and having gone from a Case CX80 without to a M8540 with it, it is amazing how much difference it makes in the heavy mud.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #17  
yup triple r has it rite, limited slip diff. on 7040 & up, not below (but it is not as important imho as for example hyd shuttle).
when i purchased several yrs ago, the price incremental 60 vs7040 was around $1500. to me, the m over the mx is a no brainer in your case. apologize for sounding assertive, but i've had both series.
go M 7040. good luck!
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #18  
yup triple r has it rite, limited slip diff. on 7040 & up, not below (but it is not as important imho as for example hyd shuttle).
when i purchased several yrs ago, the price incremental 60 vs7040 was around $1500. to me, the m over the mx is a no brainer in your case. apologize for sounding assertive, but i've had both series.
go M 7040. good luck!

Thats the same price I got between the 6040 vrs 7040 $1500 when I bought.
I paid 26,900 for the 5040(sync.shuttle)
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #19  
bigwhitehd said:
the reason i am looking at the 6040 is because it was only $800.00 more than the m5140 spec'd the same.

I will see about the m7040. When you guys talk about the front diff are you guys saying it has positive traction on the front, whereas every other tractor i have seen has an open front differential?

Dixon-I was mistaken, i am looking for a land plane grader blade.

I think the M6040 hydro shuttle will serve you well.I have one and it's a powerful machine. If its close in price though, you cant go wrong with the 7040. I would make sure to go with the Hydro shuttle also. Nottoo sure about the differential talk but I know that mine has a foot pedal by my right heel to push down to lock the differential.
 
   / Cant make up my mind...m6040 vs mx5100 #20  
M6040 comes with a wider selection of bigger loaders. Big plus. Heavier tractor all around.. Physical size is so close to the mx it is not worth debating.
A more durable tractor in my opinion and if you can swing it go for the M7040. Same tractor more grrrr.:D:thumbsup:

We tried out the MX5100 before getting the M7040 and it is a heavier / beefier tractor and is holding up very well. Power seemed to be pretty good on the MX5100 but the rear end was much lighter and we needed a tractor that could do most of its loader work without an implement / rear ballast attached and the M7040 did the trick there. Both tractors had loaded tires and the difference was very noticeable doing the same work.
 

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