Caught an Intruder

[MasseyWV]

How do you plan to keep the motion detectors from being triggered by the critters? I've considered installing some more but can't figure out how to prevent game alarms on them.

I've considered that problem because deer frequent our property, but false alarms are just something I'll have to live with. Besides, I like watching the deer so being alerted to their presence wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. When the alarm sounds, I'll grab my camera and my gun to be sure I have all the bases covered.

 

[Lebneh]

Thats easy, Put up a sign that says" No Critters Allowed".

ROFL!

 

[Misfire]

I've considered that problem because deer frequent our property, but false alarms are just something I'll have to live with. Besides, I like watching the deer so being alerted to their presence wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. When the alarm sounds, I'll grab my camera and my gun to be sure I have all the bases covered.

And when it goes off while everyone is asleep?

Also, many motion detectors are sensitive to vegetation moving in the wind. It requires some careful consideration and selection if you intend on placing them in or facing the woods.

 

[MasseyWV]

MasseyWV, I think that I would buy a couple (or more) game cameras first and put them out before doing anything else. They are probably cheaper than anything else that you listed so buying a few immediately might not break the bank. You can move them around to get a decent idea of what is going on around your property or areas in question and also see what you would be up against with "critters" and motion sensors and alarms. While these won't give you an alarm if tripped they may help you determine the most efficient way to address your security concerns.

Which ever solution that you choose, I wish you the best and hope that this was just a one time event.

Despite my failure to list it among my highest priorities, buying a game camera will probably be the first thing I do. As you mentioned, it will allow me to assess the situation and should give me the biggest bang for my buck in the short-term.

Unless he is a complete and utter moron, the intruder knows he was seen so he probably won't be back for a while, if ever, which should buy me some time. Regardless, winter is fast approaching and the lack of foliage on the trees/brush along my property line will make it all but impossible for an intruder to hide. This will give me ample time to do the proper research and begin purchasing/installing all the necessary equipment as time and money permits.

 

[MasseyWV]

And when it goes off while everyone is asleep?

Also, many motion detectors are sensitive to vegetation moving in the wind. It requires some careful consideration and selection if you intend on placing them in or facing the woods.

Sleep, what's that? I never sleep. :laughing:

Seriously, I don't plan to skimp when it comes to purchasing motion detectors because they will effectively be my primary line of defense. There are good ones out there which aren't as prone to false alarms, the only problem is finding them.

The basic goal is to create a line of defense, and if a living breathing human crosses that line I want to be immediately be alerted to their presence. Motion detectors seem to satisfy that goal, but I'm not opposed to considering alternatives for a perimeter alert system, if anyone cares to make some suggestions.

 

[aczlan]

Video and/or image recording could be accomplished using one of my computers, but I prefer to use a multi-channel DVR which may even eliminate the need for a PoE switch. I'm still reading about their capabilities, but I'd like the DVR to be automatic. Meaning it should automatically discard images and/or video beyond a certain age (7-30 days) to free space for new video and/or images. I would also like the DVR to be remote-capable so I could view video and/or images from anywhere using the internet.

Look for a Network Video Recorder (aka NVR) rather than a DVR (NVR is essentially a harddrive and software to talk to IP cameras, no analogue video inputs like a DVR). That should be able to connect to your switch and handle the recording.

Aaron Z

 

[MasseyWV]

Look for a Network Video Recorder (aka NVR) rather than a DVR (NVR is essentially a harddrive and software to talk to IP cameras, no analogue video inputs like a DVR). That should be able to connect to your switch and handle the recording.

Aaron Z

While I was calling it a DVR because that's what most people call them, a Network Video Recorder (NVR) is exactly what I'm looking for. In fact, I'm mostly looking at the commercial grade stuff with large (1TB or bigger) drives because many of the one's marketed to homeowners seem to be utter crap with reviiews to match.

Here are some examples of what I've looked at.

Amazon.com: CIB K808AV500G H.264 8 CH Network Security Surveillance DVR Recording System ...: Camera & Photo

Amazon.com: New 4 Channel Embedded Linux US411Z-WS D1 H.264 Network DVR With 1000GB (1TB) Hard Drive, Real time True Triplex with built web server for remote viewing and operation, backup and operation 4CH DVR 480FPS SATA ready: Camera & Photo

 

[Cat_Driver]

How do you plan to keep the motion detectors from being triggered by the critters? I've considered installing some more but can't figure out how to prevent game alarms on them.

I used linear motion detectors that shot a straight line about 125' on all four coordinates. I also raised the level if the beam aprox. 4'. The intruders I'm sire would not see the beams as they were invisible. This kept 100% of the critters from tripping it.

Yes if it's a windy day and debris is blowing around, will set off the beams, but rabbits, dogs, etc. did not. Now deer and elk, yep they would set them off, but I don't have them so not a problem for me.

Personally I would rather be alerted to several false alarms then to not be alerted at all. You can also set the sensitivity of the the "eye's"

They use them in Prisons so I was pretty sure I would be secure.

I've always wanted to set these up.. Blank trip wires that set off a shotgun shell.

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[aczlan]

While I was calling it a DVR because that's what most people call them, a Network Video Recorder (NVR) is exactly what I'm looking for. In fact, I'm mostly looking at the commercial grade stuff with large (1TB or bigger) drives because many of the one's marketed to homeowners seem to be utter crap with reviiews to match.
Here are some examples of what I've looked at.
Amazon.com: CIB K808AV500G H.264 8 CH Network Security Surveillance DVR Recording System ...: Camera & Photo
Amazon.com: New 4 Channel Embedded Linux US411Z-WS D1 H.264 Network DVR With 1000GB (1TB) Hard Drive, Real time True Triplex with built web server for remote viewing and operation, backup and operation 4CH DVR 480FPS SATA ready: Camera & Photo

IMO, none of those are NVRs. Unless I missed something, they all take analogue cameras (rather than IP cameras) but you can view the video over the network.
This is what I am calling a NVR: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053Y9VZ8/


Aaron Z

 

[MasseyWV]

IMO, none of those are NVRs. Unless I missed something, they all take analogue cameras (rather than IP cameras) but you can view the video over the network.
This is what I am calling a NVR: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0053Y9VZ8/


Aaron Z

You're right, they aren't NVR's. Thanks for spotting that.

I've only been making cursory glances to see what's out there and didn't notice that they had analog inputs. The link you provided is in fact what I want, a true network device with CAT-5 inputs for each of the 3-4 IP cameras.