Chain and Binders

[RedNeckRacin]

they are, but anytime you haul equipment its always best to use chain for the machine and straps are acceptable for implements. Think about it, straps lose strength very quickly if passed over a sharp edge. (abrasion and cuts) They are deteriorated by uv light and chemical exposure. Do you want to go cheap when securing a load that may come through your back window? Legal and safe aren't always the samething.

 

[pat32rf]

If I used cheater pipes on my binders, I'd be bending something on my tractor. The only solid thing up front to hook to is the FEL frame...

 

[dhagood]

note: this discussion is about using chains to restrain machinery. it is not germane to restraining loads where the straps or chains are pulled down against stingers on the deck (lumber or steel pipe, for instance).

i hate snap binders. chains have to be tensioned a bit against the machinery being restrained or the chains tend to snap or whip around when a load is applied. with snap binders you have to use a cheater pipe to get some tension on the chain. snap binders also suffer from not being very adjustable. if you don't grab enough chain between the binder hooks you don't have enough tension. if you grab too much chain between the binder hooks, you can get quite a bit of tension (assuming you can snap the binder shut at all) which can be dangerous when unsnapping the binder. frankly, snap binders scare me.

ratchet binders are infinitely adjustable over their small adjustment range. ratchet binders are easily adjusted to put tension on the chain and are safe removing tension as well. the two knocks against ratchet binders is that they are expensive and, most especially, the **** things rust very easily and then won't adjust. a lot of my loads went coast to coast. it's very irritating to have the binders spend a week out in the weather and be so rusted when you got to the customer's site that you can't get the **** things off without a lot of effort.

 

[B7510HSD]

Ok Guys we have a trailer finally nothing fancy just a standard 7k car hauler...Will do a trial tractor load today to see what I need for tie downs...I also need to order my brake controller today and a few other smal items I need...any recomendations for online??? Etrailer? (read a few not so good thing online) Ecustomhitch has the best price thru amazon on the controller and wireing..

 

[bullbreaker]

Ok Guys we have a trailer finally nothing fancy just a standard 7k car hauler...Will do a trial tractor load today to see what I need for tie downs...I also need to order my brake controller today and a few other smal items I need...any recomendations for online??? Etrailer? (read a few not so good thing online) Ecustomhitch has the best price thru amazon on the controller and wireing..

The Hitch Store, Trailer Hitches Online

Here's people I have dealt with/with great results. Hope it helps .

Boone

 

[B7510HSD]

Ok I was looking the tractor over for places to hook the chains as best I can see it looks like in the rear would be at the bottom of the 3 point back hoe this ok?? In the front about all I can see I can have a clear shot at is the bottom frame on the FEL which is bolted direct to the tractor frame OK??

 

[Diamondpilot]

Ok I was looking the tractor over for places to hook the chains as best I can see it looks like in the rear would be at the bottom of the 3 point back hoe this ok?? In the front about all I can see I can have a clear shot at is the bottom frame on the FEL which is bolted direct to the tractor frame OK??

Sounds good to me.

Chris

 

[B7510HSD]

Thanks trying to do things right the first time!!

 

[dhagood]

Ok I was looking the tractor over for places to hook the chains as best I can see it looks like in the rear would be at the bottom of the 3 point back hoe this ok?? In the front about all I can see I can have a clear shot at is the bottom frame on the FEL which is bolted direct to the tractor frame OK??

what i would do first is look in your owner's manual for for recommended tie down points. then i would surf kubota's factory web site to see if you can find any information there. if that didn't work i'd call the dealer and see if you can get anybody to tell you how the dealership handles that.

good luck.

 

[B7510HSD]

what i would do first is look in your owner's manual for for recommended tie down points. then i would surf kubota's factory web site to see if you can find any information there. if that didn't work i'd call the dealer and see if you can get anybody to tell you how the dealership handles that.

good luck.

good idea I will do that! Thanks

 

[deepNdirt]

when i read the writing on the chain bucks to see where were made I also read not to use a cheeter bar, I personally never have used one, however most trucker's I seen use cheeter bar on their chain binders, The binders I have are rated work load 8200 lbs, and made in USA, I believe I'd like the ratchet type better, there's limited room between the rail on my trailer and the chain hook to the tractor to locking them down, I've found the railing on the trailer actually makes it dificult to tie things down having to rout between the rail to get at a location on the frame,

 

[newbury]

Ok I was looking the tractor over for places to hook the chains as best I can see it looks like in the rear would be at the bottom of the 3 point back hoe this ok?? In the front about all I can see I can have a clear shot at is the bottom frame on the FEL which is bolted direct to the tractor frame OK??

I would not hook onto the backhoe. I may be doing it wrong but I've chained over the axles when I couldn't find a better point.

From a thread in 2006

Use the axles. Do NOT use attach points such as the 3PT arms, implements attached to the tractor , loader arms, steps, weight brackets, etc

Use four chains and four chain ratchet binders with grade 70 chain. The difference between cheap chain and grade 70 is probably less than $20 for a typical tractor & trailer combo hauling a compact tractor.

Always loop your chain down through the stake pocket and then back up to hang vertically on the stake pocket. This way, if the chain ever loosened a little bit, gravity will keep it in place and your load safe. If not, you run the chance of the chain completely coming loose.

and remember chains for the tractor but straps, properly protected against abrasion, are usually ok for the attached implements.

 

[B7510HSD]

And the dealer just told me today that is the best place to chain to is the backhoe on the rear and the brush gaurd on the front??? :confused3:

 

[Diamondpilot]

And the dealer just told me today that is the best place to chain to is the backhoe on the rear and the brush gaurd on the front??? :confused3:

Each tractor is different. If those items are securely bolted go for it.

Chris

 

[newbury]

If his 7510 is anything like my 7610 I wouldn't trust the brush guard unless I KNEW I was not going to have an accident. To many stories of people getting in an accident and not having there equipment tied down to a really sturdy tie down.

 

[dstig1]

My brush guard is bolted to the frame with I think 4 very large bolts. I put my front chains there. I have no concerns about how strong it is. In the rear I chain to a shackle I put into the drawbar. Another very strong point. I like chains, but for a smaller B-series I might even consider heavy straps too. Secure is critical, but you don't need to go tooo crazy... There are only so many possible places to tie a tractor down, and the manual says nothing about it, so find a couple reasonable spots and go for it.

 

[B7510HSD]

My brush guard is bolted to the frame with I think 4 very large bolts. I put my front chains there. I have no concerns about how strong it is. In the rear I chain to a shackle I put into the drawbar. Another very strong point. I like chains, but for a smaller B-series I might even consider heavy straps too. Secure is critical, but you don't need to go tooo crazy... There are only so many possible places to tie a tractor down, and the manual says nothing about it, so find a couple reasonable spots and go for it.

Thanks My brush gaurd is mounted the same way..I am going to use 4 chains on the tractor and 2 straps over the buckets!!