chinese maybe!!!

[keyser soze]

My experience boils down to this: The Chinese have the capabilities to mfgr good equipment, however, the German, American, Japanese, etc QC people need to stand over them 24/7. If you leave them to their own devices, they will shortcut quality for # units off the end of the line every time. Ken Sweet

This is the 100% truth.

There is an old saying with importing chinese parts. "Expect what you inspect."

 

[fusses67]

Hi to all, thankyou for the solid responses in regard to chinese tractors, i think its a
decision not to be made in hast.will read chinese tractor forums, see how many people complain about mechanical issues..lol For now I will stick with my little grey TED 20 ferguson which i have had for 20 years, and hasnt missed a beat, cheerfull and timless still with us, and all parts available...even new.

 

[Soundguy]

ANY time you are spending a chunk of money.. it's no time for haste.

do your research.. then you will feel better about writing the check.

good luck.. we are all counting on you ( no pressure... )_

soundguy

 

[Pops15]

don't forget the sulfur compounds in the drywall too!

contaminated pet food.

lead paint on toys

lead , cadmium and other heavy metals in jewlry...

soundguy

I recently took a class for "lead safe work practices" as required by the EPA. The instructor is a fireman/EMT. As part of his fire department's emergency preparedness, they issued cell phone size radiation detectors. One of the fire fighters in his department had his detector go off at home. Turns out one leg of a steel table that was made in China had dangerous levels of radiation!

 

[Diamondpilot]

While there are some issues with Chinese tractors you must remember they are 1/3 the cost and the dealer is usually not around the corner like the major brands. Parts are easy to get but knowing how to figure out what is wrong with it may not be so easy so that is what sends people to the internet looking for help. This alone may make the numbers of issues look large but a good example is me and my uncle bought our tractors the same month in 2003. He got a 33ish HP JD. It has had the PTO go out twice and also a hydrostat issue but he did not go to a forum to get help, he called his JD dealer. Once they fixed the pto at his place. The other two times it had to be taken in. My tractor has broken also but I used my general knowledge of machinery and this site to figure out what was going on and to source parts.

Have something someone else fixes is for some. Having something you can fix yourself is for others like me. It all comes down to what you need and want.

Chris

 

[Soundguy]

I recently took a class for "lead safe work practices" as required by the EPA. The instructor is a fireman/EMT. As part of his fire department's emergency preparedness, they issued cell phone size radiation detectors. One of the fire fighters in his department had his detector go off at home. Turns out one leg of a steel table that was made in China had dangerous levels of radiation!

probably some recycled medical device with isotope got ground up in that batch of tables.. that or smoke detector..

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

Have something someone else fixes is for some. Having something you can fix yourself is for others like me. It all comes down to what you need and want.

Chris

I actually prefer older technology that I can wrench on, vs some of the new stuff that well.. you are up shhh creek if you don't have some spcialized test equipment or one-of tools.. or.. etc....

soundguy

 

[buckeyefarmer]

If it was 1/3 the cost, I might consider it, for low cost items. I do buy some chinese tools for one time jobs.

 

[studor]

Well now a U.S. manufacturer is being recalled because of Cadmium paint on Shrek glasses sold at Mc Donalds. The Chinese did not invent greed nor do they have a monopoly on it. Lets face it when you talk about putting stuff in baby food etc you are talking about greed not quality of manufacture -- difference is in China people caught doing that kind of thing end up as organ donors whereas in western society we either slap their wrists or run up large taxpayer bills proclaiming their right to live -- JMHO

 

[fusses67]

Well now a U.S. manufacturer is being recalled because of Cadmium paint on Shrek glasses sold at Mc Donalds. The Chinese did not invent greed nor do they have a monopoly on it. Lets face it when you talk about putting stuff in baby food etc you are talking about greed not quality of manufacture -- difference is in China people caught doing that kind of thing end up as organ donors whereas in western society we either slap their wrists or run up large taxpayer bills proclaiming their right to live -- JMHO

so true''

 

[fusses67]

hi to all, thnks again to all for your responses, feel most welcome within this community the tractor which i was interested in was the Enfly model DQ404 40 hp, has anyone heard of it or know about them??, they seem new here in australia, on two dealers, but all are in different states, as im in south australia. thats another issue if problems occur.

 

[JoelD]

I came very close to buying one. A local dealer here in Manchester NH was selling them. He was a side of the road dealer, sold other stuff I forget what, I think it as plows and hitches and the like. I spoke to the guy on the phone, was a commical conversation, he knew absolutely nothing about tractors, much less the ones he was selling. He had one sitting in the grass near his place. I drove and looked at it a couple of times. My conversation with the owner of the dealership was the clincher, really was a funny conversation. I can only imagine how little knowledge his mechanic had. Sure enough, they were gone shortly thereafter or at least I don't see him advertising anymore. He was all over craigs list at the time.

I also know of some people who've had great luck with their jinma tractors, Deputy on this forum is one of them.

For me, I ended up purchasing used name brand and I am very happy I did, my tractor is much heavier and stouter in all ways. Parts are no problem and dealers are no problem (although loosing Rick was a blow).

Joel

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

You must have a special order unit. I happen to have 2 JD 5425 4wd tractors in my barn right now, one about 5 years old and the other about 2 years old, and neither have a front axle made in China. Axles seem to be a product that the Chinese have had issues with. You can look at the label I just took a picture of on a JD 5425 and it clearly is made in Italy. You sure "China" on your tractor isn't spelled "Italy"?

Yes, it was a special order. I specifically asked for a front axle made in China! What do the Italians know about making quality front axles anyway? :laughing::laughing:

Or maybe it is just the label that is made in China.

 

[Dargo]

Yes, it was a special order. I specifically asked for a front axle made in China! What do the Italians know about making quality front axles anyway? :laughing::laughing:

Or maybe it is just the label that is made in China.

That's really weird. You get a craving for rice when you get off the tractor? Now that I think about it, I do want some garlic bread and pasta when I get off mine.

Seriously, I've only seen ones with Italian front axles. I wonder what/when/why they made a change. As I mentioned earlier, China can make quality stuff if charged with such a project. It is MHO that, if given the opportunity, they'll take the short cut. I wonder if JD could tell you why yours is made in China when it seems all others were from Italy? You don't see a faint "Foton" under the green paint, do you? LOL

**edit**

I just noticed that you're from Canada. I wonder how much is different between the "same" JD tractor sold here in the U.S. as compared to the ones sold in Canada. I just assumed they were the same. Apparently not.

 

[GreenWannabe]

Carraro has two plants in China - one for mini gears and another for drive systems. IIRC I read not long ago that they were making axles in China.

 

[Heywood Jannockitov]

That's really weird. You get a craving for rice when you get off the tractor? Now that I think about it, I do want some garlic bread and pasta when I get off mine.

Seriously, I've only seen ones with Italian front axles. I wonder what/when/why they made a change. As I mentioned earlier, China can make quality stuff if charged with such a project. It is MHO that, if given the opportunity, they'll take the short cut. I wonder if JD could tell you why yours is made in China when it seems all others were from Italy? You don't see a faint "Foton" under the green paint, do you? LOL

**edit**

I just noticed that you're from Canada. I wonder how much is different between the "same" JD tractor sold here in the U.S. as compared to the ones sold in Canada. I just assumed they were the same. Apparently not.

That's flied lice! :licking::laughing:
Supposedly, US and Canada are considered one market to JD. I can't see the assembly line foreman saying "Hey Fred, this one is sold to a Canadian, better stick one of those cheaper chinese axles on it!"
But, who knows?:confused2:

More likely, either JD switched to chinese sourced axles in early '08 (the build date on mine is Mar. 25 2008 IIRC) or they have more than one supplier and they ran short on Carraro ones. Mine was nearing the end of the 5x25 series production run. I bet the new 5E series replacement has alot more chinese stuff in it.

 

[Soundguy]

any chance that cad paint was on parts made in china and assembled here.

Many times I see mad in use stickers on ASSEMBLIES, and when taking them apart see component pieces with 'hecho en chine' on them


soundguy

 

[milkman]

I recently took a class for "lead safe work practices" as required by the EPA. The instructor is a fireman/EMT. As part of his fire department's emergency preparedness, they issued cell phone size radiation detectors. One of the fire fighters in his department had his detector go off at home. Turns out one leg of a steel table that was made in China had dangerous levels of radiation!

We've dumped a lot of the stuff in other countries and blew up a lot of stuff with it in the last few years, that's the reason for this thread also, maybe China got some of that scrap.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/related-topics/95767-our-tractors-going-start-glowing.html

 

[RoyJackson]

More likely, either JD switched to chinese sourced axles in early '08 (the build date on mine is Mar. 25 2008 IIRC) or they have more than one supplier and they ran short on Carraro ones. Mine was nearing the end of the 5x25 series production run. I bet the new 5E series replacement has alot more chinese stuff in it.

Probably more then one source...most companies don't depend on one source for a given part or assembly.
Sole sourcing has it's advantages...but is risky in many respects.
Unfortunately, china has become a primary manufacturer due to extremely low labor costs (regulated by it's totalitarian government) and very loose regulations.