CNH NEW MODELS

[Torvy]

Well, CNH customer service actually answered this time. She was very helpful. She gave me the name of my local dealer (who was not even remotely my closest dealer) and said they could probably tell me more. Then she gave me a link to the parts look-up site so that maybe, I guess I can look up the price of batteries on my own? LOL

Anyway, it reminded me why the only blue tractor in my yard is a FORD and why I have only bought Kubota and Agco products since the last time I tried to deal with CNH back in 2008.

Maybe it's the nearest dealer that will get the electric models?

 

[Paystar]

Maybe it's the nearest dealer that will get the electric models?

Who knows. I just know that when I ask Kubota Canada or Massey Ferguson a question I get detailed answers.

 

[alwaysworking]

that 75 has good looks.

 

[WM75Guy]

I called my NH dealer about the T4 Electric. Sales guy said it would be a while. He is going to check on the price. My WM75 trade-in value is close to what I originally paid for it, so I may consider an upgrade to a PowerStar 75. By the time the T4 Electric is available, my trade-in value will probably have gone down.

 

[Paystar]

I called my NH dealer about the T4 Electric. Sales guy said it would be a while. He is going to check on the price. My WM75 trade-in value is close to what I originally paid for it, so I may consider an upgrade to a PowerStar 75. By the time the T4 Electric is available, my trade-in value will probably have gone down.

If you get any info keep us posted. I love internal combustion, but those are cool looking tractors with nice features. I'd actually like to see them work out. I'm not giving up my antiques but I would probably take an electric tractor over a diesel that has a DPF and/or SCR.

 

[Jchonline]

4 hours of run time is really bad. What rancher is going to hay for 4 hours t hen charge the machine for 8 hours?

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

4 hours of run time is really bad. What rancher is going to hay for 4 hours t hen charge the machine for 8 hours?

And it will cost 50% more than the diesel

 

[Hay Dude]

Looks like to me the smaller tractor crowd will suffer the first versions of electric tractors and all the associated teething pains, no runs, glitches, etc.
Then farmers, excavators, etc will have to fork over thousands each for special high amperage charging stations and electric bills like nobody can imagine.

By then, I’ll be out to pasture and it won’t be a worry

 

[Paystar]

In a way, I wish it did work. I love diesel, but compared to a new diesel with a DPF muffler and regens, I's rather have a tractor I can start to move with something with the forks or very low load chores and then just shut it off and no worries.

Oh wait......I do have that! A 55, a 67 and two 1971's. LOL

 

[Jchonline]

Looks like to me the smaller tractor crowd will suffer the first versions of electric tractors and all the associated teething pains, no runs, glitches, etc.
Then farmers, excavators, etc will have to fork over thousands each for special high amperage charging stations and electric bills like nobody can imagine.

By then, I’ll be out to pasture and it won’t be a worry

Thousands? Last I checked a Level 3 (DC-fast) charger is over $ 1 mil installed. L2 is probably $2k or so installed and is only 240v at around 24 amps. That would be around 6 kw an hour.....so if you have a 200 kwh battery then....yeah it will be awhile! Apparently some L2 chargers can pump out closer to 20 kwh but it takes a special setup to accept it. That would be much better...but still 8 hours to charge a tractor battery is ridiculous.

 

[Hay Dude]

Thousands? Last I checked a Level 3 (DC-fast) charger is over $ 1 mil installed. L2 is probably $2k or so installed and is only 240v at around 24 amps. That would be around 6 kw an hour.....so if you have a 200 kwh battery then....yeah it will be awhile! Apparently some L2 chargers can pump out closer to 20 kwh but it takes a special setup to accept it. That would be much better...but still 8 hours to charge a tractor battery is ridiculous.

Yeah, well you get the point. The average farmer can’t build a tractor charging station too easily.
That may be the underlying reason this is being done-to put the small farmer, excavator, etc out of business and make so only large corporate farming operations and construction companies can afford to do it.

 

[Mike_in_Missouri]

Electric tractor will probably give you a nice electirc bill unless
you have plenty of solar. IMHO the cost of the tractor & battery
replacement isn't worth the money for what you get! Just think
how much fuel you can get for $10K in 4 years you could buy a
new tractor. Diesel fuel at $5 a gal you could buy 2000 gallons
using 240 gallons a month would have 8.33 years of fuel

willy

The entire push to electric is just NUTS. FOOLISHNESS. Farms don't run on margins big enough to support this garbage, unless they're in a market where they can pass the costs to the consumer.

 

[Mike_in_Missouri]

Yeah, well you get the point. The average farmer can’t build a tractor charging station too easily.
That may be the underlying reason this is being done-to put the small farmer, excavator, etc out of business and make so only large corporate farming operations and construction companies can afford to do it.

Well, then they can go without any future business from me.

The Amish know a thing or two. We may see a return to relatively primitive means of farming, and I bet many consumers would support it.

 

[Paystar]

Yeah, well you get the point. The average farmer can’t build a tractor charging station too easily.
That may be the underlying reason this is being done-to put the small farmer, excavator, etc out of business and make so only large corporate farming operations and construction companies can afford to do it.

Well last year I had already read a statement put out from an exec at International Trucks and he said the owner operator will soon be no more because the cost of a new truck will very soon be out of reach of anybody except the giant mega fleets.

 

[Paystar]

Well, then they can go without any future business from me.

The Amish know a thing or two. We may see a return to relatively primitive means of farming, and I bet many consumers would support it.

I was also already thinking about this years ago when the Mennonites bought up most of the farm land around here. Even all the overgrown, unused land and turned it all into productive farmland again.......I said to myself who's the smart ones now! LOL
No expensive equipment, no fuel and hydro bills.

 

[LouNY]

I'm still trying to get my mind around calling a new series of tractors an "M", 100+HP sure doesn't bring my mind to an Farmall M.
As far as the 74HP electric, I could see it being a usefull chore tractor on a smaller operation as a feeding and cleanup tractor.
For an around the farm puttering tractor not having to put up with the emission garbage and associated issues, gee do I see a bit of underhandedness here mandate something that doesn't work worth a damn and then offer a high priced alternative.

 

[Paystar]

I'm still trying to get my mind around calling a new series of tractors an "M", 100+HP sure doesn't bring my mind to an Farmall M.
As far as the 74HP electric, I could see it being a usefull chore tractor on a smaller operation as a feeding and cleanup tractor.
For an around the farm puttering tractor not having to put up with the emission garbage and associated issues, gee do I see a bit of underhandedness here mandate something that doesn't work worth a damn and then offer a high priced alternative.

I like the idea of it also for some applications. Would be a good fit for an additional tractor in my yard. But as I have said, until they are willing to show me cost of ownership and ROI why would I even consider it?

 

[5030]

Haven't seen pricing yet, but bet it will scare you. Says they will run 4 hours and they have a 3 year battery warranty.

I find it odd though, that they come with more lights and heated seats (where you'd want to be saving your battery) yet the diesels don't have them, LOL

If it's at all comparable to the JD electric utility tractor, you better be hanging on to your wallet... The JD edition is around 225 grand and I've not seen a single one around here and this is JD country for some odd reason,

Gee, 4 hours working time on a charge. Sounds to me like you had better be toting along a gas powered genny on the 3 point hitch, just in case....

None of the 'electric' tractors are ready for prime time and won't be until they get the battery life extended to a point where they can actually perform meaningful farm work. They just don't 'work'... 3 year battery guarantee is hogwash as well. Most row croppers I know of, unless they are extremely flush (a rare bird), run their units at least 5 years (total depreciation time) until they upgrade.

 

[5030]

mandate something that doesn't work worth a damn and then offer a high priced alternative.

Lou... You are flush. Why don't you purchase one and then report back on how it works or don't?

 

[LouNY]

Lou... You are flush. Why don't you purchase one and then report back on how it works or don't?

If I was that flush why would most of my purchases be used equipment, and I still don't see a 50x100 heated and AC'd shop in my yard.
Actually if it is capable of 4 hours of work it would do 80% of what I do. Just like this week, 6 hours, then 5 hrs and today only 4 hours of raking. Most times it's driveway and roadway (winter) maintenance a bit of corn planting and some grain drill operation.