Comments/Questions following purchase of 2310D

[Mickey_Fx]

I think to add to California's comments and to others reagrding VN "rebuilds" is it seems there is the real possibility that these tractors have been assembled from various tractors and models and anything that fits could be combined.

I live not too far from tractor Ernie, bought my tractor from him as well. He has told me stories on several occassions about receiving a request for a specific part for a specific model and then after sending, getting a call from customer saying "what gives?, the part doesn't fit my tractor." Turns out the part in question wasn't the OEM part for the tractor.

If this is the case with a tractor you own, it could become an issue somewhere down the road. Don't think there was anything personal with some of the critical comments.

 

[larso1]

Just to clarify my comment on "problems" above, BruceT has already been hammered about the risks of buying a Vietnamese "recon" tractor just a few threads down. He checked it out (in accordance with the risk comments), he bought it, he seems happy with it, and he's not complaining to anyone about its condition (do I read you right, Bruce?).....just asking typical tractor ownership questions. I agree that a new forum member should be warned of the risks once, but to re-hash the same issues really gets old and is not helpful in any way.

Bill

 

[BruceT]

>>>...and he's not complaining to anyone about its condition (do I read you right, Bruce?).....

Perfectly Bill, thank you. Perhaps if I had learned to use those smiley faces, then there would not have been a question.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm happy to share any & all experiences with this machine, and I believe that is what the forum's goals are.

 

[EFC]

I know I sure get tired of hearing the recon(salvaged) debate. It is really transparent to us dealers though. We have to deal with this subject everyday day in and out. We see the blatant lies and misrepresentation by salvage dealers then we wind up picking up the pieces for them to keep our good names. I really truly believe that most recon dealers believe what they are telling the customers, but I also know people believe what they want to believe regardless of facts and dealers are no different.

I can sell anything I want. I have been approached by every Vietnam company out there. I have visited their plants in Vietnam. Does anybody really think I would endure 20 hour one way plane flights flying back and forth to Japan each month fighting seemingly never ending jet lag, away from my wife and son to purchase tractors if I could buy a better product from Vietnam?

I stopped selling Chinese tractors for the same reason I can’t sell Vietnam salvaged tractors. It is an inconsistent product that is overall junk. I know that sounds harsh but EFC is primarily a grey tractor service facility and we see lots of Vietnam machines from the inside out. I see the hand made parts and I am not talking about hood ornaments I am talking about gears. The day Vietnam actually remanufactures a tractor everyone will know because it will cost more than a new one.

I am really glad Bruce found the tractor he wanted and I honestly hope it never has a problem. I am a big believer in supporting the dealer that is close to you. Competition is good for customers and dealers. As long as Mitch supports his salvaged tractors I have no problem with him selling them. The day they start coming to me for parts and service or the brand name starts to suffer that’s when I feel comfortable calling a spade a spade. I have had to support Mitch’s tractors and many other dealers’ tractors, which I will continue to do, but you cant expect me to support salvaged equipment and listen to the rhetoric at the same time without speaking out….That would make my head explode!!!

We should all support Bruce like any other Yanmar buyer. After all anybody that would own an IH300 (one of my favorite tractors) and would buy a grey market tractor is our kind of guy!! J Remember he could have bought a New Holland.

Buck

 

[BruceT]

>>> After all anybody that would own an IH300 (one of my favorite tractors) and would buy a grey market tractor is our kind of guy!!

Thanks Buck, I have to add that this compact won't ever replace the IH300. As difficult as it can be to drive and maintain, it will always be doing the tough chores on this farm. Thanks for sharing your feelings respectfully on this topic.

 

[EFC]

I took these pick last trip. This was one of three headed to Vietnam. These were the only tractors that were in one piece out of 24.

Buck

 

[EFC]

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[EFC]

Even I couldnt beleive this one

 

[EFC]

Here is my personal IH300. If you need a loader for yours let me know.

Buck

 

[BruceT]

Buck - now that's a pretty picture. The loader looks good on that tractor, and I expect the IH300 steering responds gratefully to you on a daily basis for not loading it down more than it is already. Yours looks to be in pretty good shape.

Mine... eh, not so good. Sure could use pwr steering. My poor steering box! Currently I have the hydraulic pump (std engine mounted) off for main shaft seal replacement. I'm sure you've heard this before... "I was dumpin hydraulic fluid into the crankcase."

Hope to have it back up running here shortly. Thanks for sharing those pics.