Deciding on grapple type, not brand yet.

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Hersheyfarm

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I am leaning towards a single lid instead of the dual lid, and the shorter bottom. This will be for a svl75. I have no ability to try them out so watching vids and etc.. my main thing will be woods cleanup, lots of old downed trees, honeysuckle, and undergrowth. I like the bigger rake style lid with ability for back dragging. Anybody got both or bought one and wish theyæ±*e got the other?
 
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Years ago, like 10, I bought the rake master grapple like the YouTube presenter CotonTop purchased & I absolutely love the thing. At first I thought it was overkill and over weighted for the kind of work I’d was going to be doing. Neither was true.
 
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For the SVL I'd go with dual lid. I often wish I went dual lid on my MX but at the same time it would be slower and weigh more on an already heavy implement for the tractor.
 
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I bought a duel lid with open tines in the front. I didn’t like the idea of the open front at first but it’s quickly grown on me. The open teeth cut through the ground without damaging it much or picking up much dirt. Here’s the only picture I could find that shows the bottom. IMG_9672.JPG
 
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This is the style I’m thinking. The duel lid seems useful but not for raking.

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But then again the longer tine bottom would allow you to see what you digging into.
 
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I have the long, open bottom, dual lid type. It is nice as you can scoop things up, rake through the ground to clear vines, grab rocks etc. OR come over the top and down to grab a large brush pile. Stuff doesn't fall out with the longer bottom and dual lids as it is resting on the tines not just the clamping force. They all will move brush I suppose.
 
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That is the style of my first grapple:

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Not the best for picking up large brush piles. But, any grapple is better than no grapple.:

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I can rake just fine going forward with the Monster Grapple: https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...pact-telehandler-post5502717.html#post5502717

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Nice. Thanks. Just the comparison I am looking for, all though your lid is flat and some are more rounded.
 
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If EverythingAttachments is a possible choice, Contact Ted or Travis and they could probably arrange for you to come out and try out a couple different styles that they offer out in NC.
 
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This is the style I’m thinking. The duel lid seems useful but not for raking.

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But then again the longer tine bottom would allow you to see what you digging into.

I’d rather have the long bottom. The rake style would have to suffer picking up pretty much anything over a long bottom.
 
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I spent a long time trying to decide on the "type" of grapple. Basically, you have rock & root and then brush. What you have pictured, HersheyFarm, is the rock & root type. That's what I ended up getting. Land Pride SGC1560 - 60" wide - 820#. Had it now for seven years and it's still in pristine condition.

I control mine with a WR Long 3rd function valve. Backdraging to level - digging out and moving large rocks - moving large sections of pine tree trunk - cleaning up brush.

Do yourself a favor. Get your grill guard modified to protect your grill, radiator & battery from sticks, stobs, limbs etc.

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I spent a long time trying to decide on the "type" of grapple. Basically, you have rock & root and then brush. What you have pictured, HersheyFarm, is the rock & root type. That's what I ended up getting. Land Pride SGC1560 - 60" wide - 820#. Had it now for seven years and it's still in pristine condition.

I control mine with a WR Long 3rd function valve. Backdraging to level - digging out and moving large rocks - moving large sections of pine tree trunk - cleaning up brush.

Do yourself a favor. Get your grill guard modified to protect your grill, radiator & battery from sticks, stobs, limbs etc.

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He’s putting it on a skid steer but tractor brush guards definitely leave room for improvement. Here’s mine I built. IMG_8039.JPG
 
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I have a 84" rock/root style and like it. Great for grabbing trees and big stuff and rooting in the dirt, but also really nice for putting out mulch. Gives pretty good control over how much you grab and then spread around. Another thing is the rock/root style are usually heavier built - I have not managed to tear mine up yet or even bend it a little.
 
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I wouldn't recommend going with anything other than EA Attachments. They've got a couple videos of their wicked root rake grapple on their SVL I do believe.
 
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Nice addition to your brush guard - 4570Man. That will deflect the brush - and all elephants. WoW!!!
 
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This is the style I知 thinking. The duel lid seems useful but not for raking.

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But then again the longer tine bottom would allow you to see what you digging into.

Something to consider when using the lid for back-dragging is: does it have mechanical stops or are the hydraulic cylinders the only thing keeping the lid from over extending over the top/back of the grapple? (have seen how hydraulic cylinders/valves react to unexpected shock loads and I doubt it's a good thing for either - even with over pressure relief valves doing their thing)

....and in general I think I'd go with that style for a skid steer simply because a skid steer can twist/turn putting some pretty strong side loads on an implement.

As was said elsewhere in the thread any grapple is better than no grapple, but from what I've experienced there is no universal "best" grapple only the grapple most suitable for your applications ..... or at least that's what I tell myself in order to justify having multiple types of grapples :D ...my current ones are Danuser Intimidator which is great for removing vertical objects like trees & posts, and a single-lid EA brush/L-bottom grapple which is great for grabbing large volumes of horizontal material and some surface raking --I prefer using my box blade tines for heavier ground engagement & root removal.

However, if I was using the grapple for digging through the ground a lot I'd likely get one of that style just to minimize the surface area dragging through the ground..... and likely one that has mechanical stops built into the frame.

Anyway just my :2cents:
 
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No matter which style you choose, you will find times the other style would have worked better.

I have a dual lid 60" MTL RK5 grapple that is built plenty strong and a great value. The RK5 has a solid back that reduces the need for a grill guard. It also provides the ability to use it for some forward grading. There are times I wish I had a 48" single lid with shorter bottom tines but not often.

I think 60" should be plenty for most uses. Wider would not be my first choice, especially in the woods.

If you can afford it then I suggest you buy two different design grapples. Some of the budget grapples are plenty strong so two for the price of one can be an option.
 
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I think 60" should be plenty for most uses. Wider would not be my first choice, especially in the woods.
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True for tractors, but not true for skid steer, CTL and my Versahandler with 4 wheel steering. If the grapple fits, the machine will clear the trees.

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