Deere new models

[TimS]

I am seriously considering this X749. Which would be better, one with the 54" deck or the 62" deck? Pros/Cons of each?

As with anything else, it depends. If you don't need to fit into any areas narrower than the 62" deck, then go for the big one. I was very surprised when I switched from a 48" deck to a 60" - I thought the extra width would be what reduced my mowing time. It does, but the smaller "uncut circle" and the ease of trimming along borders made more of a difference.

Tim

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Low volume can causes higher prices :
In that case high quality and superior components may not be there..

This is probably the case. The garden tractor market has fallen flat on its face. The cost of tooling and running an assembly today has got to be 10x what it was just a few years ago.

 

[BrianW]

Normally you know what you are talking about but this time you are just plain wrong. The GR Series compares to the 300 series Deere models not the 700 series, that's like saying a Prius compares to a Avalon!!

Don't know much about the deere line, but I could not find any water cooled diesels in the 300 series on the deer website, just third pary air cooled engines.

 

[bontai_Joe]

In the 1970's most manufacturers made 2 or 3 series of garden tractors with 2 or 3 models in each series. Now there are probably three times as many choices and engine choices galor to pick from. It really has become a niche market with a full range of machines from simple grass cutters to full out super compact utility tractors with abilities to do excavation work. Homeowner "A" can be just as happy with his $3000 machine as homeowner "B" is with his $15,000 machine if each tractor does the tasks the owners have. I look at it as the market catering to the customer's needs. It's a buyer's market.

 

[LBrown59]

Homeowner "A" can be just as happy with his $3000 machine as homeowner "B" is with his $15,000 machine if each tractor does the tasks the owners have. I look at it as the market catering to the customer's needs. It's a buyer's market.

I can see your point here but 15000 is still to much money for a 10000 garden tractor in my book.

Then too I've seen post by people who seem to think they have to have an All Wheel Steer tractor because tractors without AWS steer like the Turning radius of A semi truck with trailer.
== L B ==

 

[bontai_Joe]

I can see your point here but 15000 is still to much money for a 10000 garden tractor in my book.

Then too I've seen post by people who seem to think they have to have an All Wheel Steer tractor because tractors without AWS steer like the Turning radius of A semi truck with trailer.
== L B ==

I can't understand why anyone would by a Corvette or Porche when you can get 2 or more perfectly good pickup trucks for the same money, but I can appreciate the folks that may think differently than me about their transportation "needs" (no one really NEEDS a Porche, it's a WANT not a need.) And any good manufacturer will cater to their customer's needs AND wants, which is why Ford builds and sells tiny commuter cars AND Lincolns. Same with GM and same with the tractor market.

 

[LBrown59]

I can't understand why anyone would by a Corvette or Porche when you can get 2 or more perfectly good pickup trucks for the same money, but I can appreciate the folks that may think differently than me about their transportation "needs" (no one really NEEDS a Porche, it's a WANT not a need.) And any good manufacturer will cater to their customer's needs AND wants, which is why Ford builds and sells tiny commuter cars AND Lincolns. Same with GM and same with the tractor market.

But you don't pay for a Lincoln and get a Mercury from Ford.
In my estimation the X700 JDs are Mercurys being sold at Lincoln prices.

 

[Jammer]

But you don't pay for a Lincoln and get a Mercury from Ford.
In my estimation the X700 JDs are Mercurys being sold at Lincoln prices.

It would be very helpful if you could provide some objective empirical data to support your estimations on how and why a Deere X700 is not worth the money, because you post it so often in so many threads. If it is just your subjective views, then please state that. You explain why you "feel" as though the X700s are overpriced but never actually support your claims with any factual information, which would really help out the forum. Do some research and let us know.

 

[unit40]

X700 Ultimate Tractor
List Price: $9,499.00

Not too bad, a $15,000 tractor for under $10,000. Now that's a bargain, and worth buying two of them at that price. I'm sure the dealer would give a good discount too.

 

[Jammer]

Then too I've seen post by people who seem to think they have to have an All Wheel Steer tractor because tractors without AWS steer like the Turning radius of A semi truck with trailer.
== L B ==

LB, I think it was you and only you who have posted, several times, this observation regarding the semi-trailer turning radius. If I stand to be corrected, please provide the link

 

[skidoo]

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Then too I've seen post by people who seem to think they have to have an All Wheel Steer tractor because tractors without AWS steer like the Turning radius of A semi truck with trailer.
== L B ==

I think you may be missing the a main point. I have not yet used an AWS model, so take my opinion as such. But, I did some checking and discovered that the AWS X534 for example, has a larger turning radius than the X540, X520, X340, X740 (all four are 2WS) and all of the LA mowers (LA100 through LA150 models). The point is that even though its turning radius may be larger, it does have a smaller uncut circle than all of these 2 wheel steer models.

Model TR UCCR
X540 22 24
X520 22 24
X340 16 18
X740 25 22
LA100 18 20
LA110 18 20
LA120 18 20
LA130 18 25
LA140 18 25
LA150 18 25

X534 27 13


X7482WD 28 33
X7484WD 48.5 43

X749 AWD 21 6



I was looking at the X748 for its 4WD capability for slopes. The X749 came along with the tighter turn radius and uncut circle and that made the difference for me. I have been using a Toro with a turn radius of about 36" and uncut circle near that. I did not like that much but dealt with it. I am looking forward to the tighter maneuverability and AWD traction of the X749. For that, it is worth the extra $$ to me...

 

[skidoo]

My new X749 is in and will be delivered on Monday!

 

[jcmseven]

Skidoo,

I am happy to hear that your machine is coming in. I would like, for one, to see some pictures of your new machine. LB, there is no conspiracy trying to sell X series JD machinery for more than its worth. If anything lawn and garden is worth $10,000, it would be an X series tractor. It was easily the finest piece of lawn and garden machinery I have owned or operated. I needed something a little bigger and thus went with a true compact tractor. I can say that without my needs changing, I would still happily own my X595.

John M

 

[turbo36]

My new X749 is in and will be delivered on Monday!

Did you get a snowblower with it? I am very interested in your "first drive" review.

 

[skidoo]

Did you get a snowblower with it? I am very interested in your "first drive" review.

Nothing but the 62" mower deck. No blower, No rear pto, nor 3PH options. I really only need (want) it for mowing. I have the 2520 for everything else. I'll get pictures next week of them next to each other.

 

[LBrown59]

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1* Yeah an X series tractor would probably come closest
2* You mean the x749 don't come standard with a 3 point hitch or a rear PTO?

 

[skidoo]

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2* You mean the x749 don't come standard with a 3 point hitch or a rear PTO?

My understanding is that these are options. I don't care. I don't need them for its planned use, especially since I also have a 2520 for the implements that need it. If it was to be the only tractor I had, it would certainly be a must have.

 

[LBrown59]

My new X749 is in and will be delivered on Monday!

Congratulations on the New JDx749.
Looking forward to reading all about it in your future post.

 

[LBrown59]

My understanding is that these are options.
1*I don't care. I don't need them for its planned use, especially since I also have a 2520 for the implements that need it.

1* I can inderstand that but I could not see that kind of money for just a mower to mow 15 to 20% of my yard considering I have a BX23 with a 60'' mmm that mows the other 80 to 85%.
I also wanted a tractor that I could leave a tiller and a front blade on all the time.
To accomplish My 2 Goals required 2 tractors with 3 point hitches and rear PTOs.
$26000 for 2 JDx749s was just out of the question.
The way it worked out for me is I was able to get 2 BX1500s both having 3 point hitches and rear PTOs for $13000.
As a side note the BX1500 for mowing is way way overkill for the CC GT2554 garden tractor it replaced.
Like wise the other BX1500 that replaced the 1966 Bloens with a front blade and the 1967 Bolens with a tiller is way way over kill for the tasks I was using the Bolens tractors for.
Your're pleased with your choice and I'm delighted with my decision and that's great because that's 2 happy campers.
Have fun with the new tractor tomorrow on the big delivery day!!

 

[JiminGa]

My understanding is that these are options. I don't care. I don't need them for its planned use, especially since I also have a 2520 for the implements that need it. If it was to be the only tractor I had, it would certainly be a must have.

pto option is ~$750
3ph option is ~$500
I agree that, if you already have a tractor to do that kind of work, and unless you're looking for resale they are wasted money.