Diesel Additives

[Kendrick]

Red herring argument.. beer is not a fuel addative.. You got anything else that doesn't add to the debate?

Soundguy

hehe my inlaws moonshine is.... it strips grease off an engine at 30 paces. you just show the moter that stuff is comin and it runs for cover

On a more serous note. it is a well known fact that the EU has MUCH better fuel standards, different polution stadards but each to their own. The reason we dont see more of the diesel cars around here is entrenched oil/auto syndicates.

DP is not peddleing his wares as the saying goes.... he is right part of the reason that several states are requireing b2 to be the "standard diesel" at the pump is to resolve the ulsd issue. at that strength it is mixed enough to not cause a gelling issue but in enough quantity to resolve many issues that the ulsd has. B100 is not a endall unfortunatly expecially due to the parifins. there is a company here that is working with the university to see about getting the wax out of the b100 and using it elsewhere in commerce. Per the study mentioned B2 "1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel
HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement." ulsd base had a HFRR score of 636.
adding some quality antigell/cetane booster additive would be about as good as one can get.

as for additives if you trust the "winter blend" to run your machinery here youll be looking down the bad side of goo city. i am not looking forward to -21 F this year.

 

[Soundguy]

Looks like some PS 911 in your future? Good luck in the cold.

soundguy

 

[john_bud]

its funny how people worry about adding something to the fuel.

I suppose if fuel needed something added to it, the refiner already did it.
unless in some cases you got a specific problem like water or algae, leave it alone

Come on up for Valentines day. Should be about -15F. Just call and let us know what road your truck stopped on and we'll come get you.

Last year, the trash hauler bought over 300 qt's of fuel additive, clearing the shelves of 2 separate stores. Every single truck was gelled up. Over night. All at once.

Within 2 days, every store was out of anything that depressed gel points.

Maybe mass hysteria, or maybe the refiners don't like adding expensive stuff to the fuel to make it winter ready? Nah! Companies putting profits ahead of product quality? Never.

or ?

jb

 

[DieselPower]

I know I got a bunch of frantic phone calls last winter from customers looking to buy antigel additive. I think I sold more antigel last winter than the previous 5 years combined.

 

[cp1969]

Last year, apparently some parts of the country did not get the blend of winterized diesel right as there were many more reports than usual of vehicles gelled up. The new ingredient in the mix was ULSD--it apparently has a higher cloud point than the previous generation of #2.

I noticed that last year many people were also posting about how additives seem to have little or no effect on this situation.

The conclusion which last winter points to, and I have reached a long time ago, is that additives, if they work at all, do at best a poor job of preventing gelling.

FWIW, I ran no additives last winter and had no problems. I did, however, make sure I was running winterized fuel.

 

[jsborn]

Down here in the deep south we don't have much need for anti gel additive but I do have a question . When it does get cold say 0 or so if the fuel gels can you just wait till noon when its say back up to 40 or so and the fuel be OK again?

 

[cp1969]

No. You generally have to get it warmer than that. The wax doesn't go back into solution at the same temperature it comes out.

 

[jbrumberg]

I was ranting and raving on TBN all last winter due to the wrong "winter mix" of ULSD coming out of the refineries/distributors in NE. A lot of local diesel operators were having trouble as well. Power Service double strength as recommended kept my tractor running . Jay

 

[joerocker]

I was ranting and raving on TBN all last winter due to the wrong "winter mix" of ULSD coming out of the refineries/distributors in NE. A lot of local diesel operators were having trouble as well. Jay

Sounds like a REALLY good class action suite to me! Get back some of those BILLIONS of profits they made. Teach them a lesson in quality control.

 

[MikePA]

Sounds like a REALLY good class action suite to me!

Class action requires people were harmed. How were people harmed by this? Inconvenienced? Yes. Harmed?