diesel pickups

[Cityboyfarmer]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Remember: Keep as far away from the 6.0 (removed) choker as possible. If you gotta swing that way go find a 7.3, at least that one will run. My neighbor has had 3 of the 6.0's. 1st two were bought back for motor problems, third is in the shop now for another turbo. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )</font>

I've got a 2003 6.0 Excursion with no problems so far. They did have some issues when the engines first came out but they seem to have resolved them. I wouldn't count out any Powerstroke engine. They are quiet, smooth, economical and powerful. Last tank of fuel from a road trip to Virginia came out to 19.8 MPG.

I remember when the Cummins Dodge trucks first came out the owners I knew seemed to spend more time at the shop than on the road. Dodge worked their bugs out just like all manufacturers eventually do.

The Cummins engine is excellent, no doubt about it. I wish Dodge would develop a nice full sized SUV with a Cummins. The only complaint I have about Cummins is the noise level. You can hear 'em coming long before you see 'em!

 

[Devildog]

I have to agree with you. I got a 96 F250 and its still strokin. Cant complain one bit. Still getting 20 mpg hiway with 120K just broke in. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Dargo]

Your '96 would be the 7.3. It is just as noisy as my '96 Cummins. The new 6.0 liter is quiet, but they are having some issues with it that they are trying to work through.

The 6 liter Ford is quiet, as the '03 and newer Cummins. Whoever said the Cummins had problems at the start must be confusing them with something else. My business partner's brother works at Cummins. Dodge was delayed by 2 years getting the Cummins engine while Cummins did trials with the Dodge truck at their testing grounds here in Indiana. On their test track, the 5.9 Cummins kept twisting the Dodge frames or breaking them when pulling a weight sled. That is what precipitated Cummins to "de-tune" their engine so much to go into the Dodges. They never had any engine problems. Loud, yes; problems, no.

 

[gsxr1100]

I remember my 97 was not as load as the old 12 valve cummins. I do not know about the 24 valves or the new 6.0 to much. I know the 6.0 are a lot quiter and the GM is like a gas!

 

[PBinWA]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( well i heard that the new F150 will have a diesel in 07... i cant recall where i heard that... )</font>

That would be awesome! Jeep is pushing their Diesel Liberty which is nice but a little too small for me. I guess the big issue is the EPA stuff. It would be nice to have a 4-5 liter diesel in a half ton pickup. It would meet my needs perfectly.

Anyone know of any other auto-makers entering the 1/2 ton market with a Diesel?

 

[Dargo]

Mine is plenty loud from both the engine and from the 5" exhaust. Want me to back it up to the computer for you to hear? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm not going to sneak up on anybody! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Devildog]

Dargo,
Yes it is loud and as the saying goes loud diesels save lifes /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif I also love the smell of diesel in the morning /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif I come from and Old line of truck drivers.

 

[Av8r3400]

The only problems with the original 12 valve Cummins motors were idiots putting gasoline in them. They are (not were) about as bullet proof as any motor has ever been. Nope, I'll stick with a noisy 12 valve Cummins (either VE or P7100) over any of the new super-quiet, grocery getter, mom's taxi, aluminum headed, computerized junk they are trying to pass off as a truck motor. I'd love to find a '98 Quad-Cab 12 valve 5-speed long box, the holy grail of diesel pickups!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[RobertN]

Ya, when your pickup is louder than my Harley...... It's loud /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Actually, my Harley aint that loud; I run stock pipes with factory high-flow tips.

 

[_RaT_]

<font color="blue"> Nope, I'll stick with a noisy 12 valve Cummins (either VE or P7100) over any of the new super-quiet, grocery getter, mom's taxi, aluminum headed, computerized junk they are trying to pass off as a truck motor </font>

Wow, kind of a dogmatic, arrogant and pompous attitude we seem to have picked up in this thread. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif