Oil & Fuel diesel wont start

JohnMiller3 · Jan 21, 2003

...The temp was about 18 degrees out and its not in a heated garage.Now the tractor will not start...

Well... I read some, but not all the posts... it still sounds like you're gelled up...

Without reinventing the wheel and opening up all your fuel lines and causing 5 more problems than when you first started... I'd get a salamander and heat that baby/area up to some nice tropical temps... /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

Then give it a try... if the temps were 18 degrees and it started and then shortly stalled minutes later... you either ran out of fuel or you are gelled up... /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

rdbrumfield · Jan 21, 2003

Have to agree with John, forgot about the cold thing. Around here we never get cold enough to affect the fuel.

NY_Yankees_Fan · Jan 21, 2003

Ok tell me if this is normal for a diesel engine or do I have a problem. I have a BX 2200, went to start it today, about 15F and was very hard to start. I turned the key and got the glow plugs going for about 10-15 seconds, turned the key, it would turn over, but as soon as I stopped turning the key the engine died. I got the manual out, and it said to crank for no more then 10 seconds. I did that, and it started up towards the end of 10 seconds and ran with no problem. During the summer, you turn the key for 1-2 seconds and it catches and starts up, even a few weeks ago when it was in the 20’s I had no problem. Did I just not turn the key and hold it long enough or do I have a problem??

Thanks in advance.

Tom

Justaplain · Jan 22, 2003

Install a block heater/a timer. They are a lot cheaper than, batteries and starters. bcs

JohnMiller3 · Jan 22, 2003

...about 15F and was very hard to start...

Hi Tom,

This is just one of the characteristics with IDI Diesels being harder to start in cold weather vs. DI diesel...

...Did I just not turn the key and hold it long enough ...

I don't want you to go against the mfr. book/directions, but the colder the temps... the longer you will need glow plug preheat... I wouldn't hold it for 5 minutes (can burn the elements up)/w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif... but I'd try say 30-45 seconds (glow plug preheat) and bet it will fire up and catch... may be rough running for a minute or two... then it should smooth out...

Remember... the colder the ambient temps... the longer time for preheat you will need for startability... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

HammerFour · Jan 22, 2003

I agree with John, on my B7100 I turn and hold the key for preheat for at least 30 seconds if its below freezing.

rdbrumfield · Jan 22, 2003

One thing you can do if fall else fails, is take a small propane torch, like you use for soldering, and heat the air going into the intake. Be sure to take out the air filter first. By putting heat into the box it should fire right up.

NY_Yankees_Fan · Jan 22, 2003

I think before next winter I will add a block heater and not have to worry about it. Should have listen to the TBN folks, and not the dealer, when buying the tractor and just spent the $80 then. I guess I will see how much fun it is to get those plugs out of the block in the spring! I guess the project of running electric to the shed goes to the top of the list too!, I can just hear the CFO now...

Tom

rmonio · Jan 22, 2003

Agreed. One of the first things I did for my JD4600 was buy a both a block heater AND a hydraulic heater. Now I simply plug in the unit about an hour or so before I want to use the tractor and it starts like a champ (coldest test here in Minnesota so far has been about 8 below zero). Good use of $100 (including labor and both heaters) in my opinion and I'd recommend it to everyone.

One question though for those who might know when it comes to block heaters... should I leave the unit plugged in all night or is just wiser to plug it a couple hours prior to using the tractor?

Thanks!

-Bob

JohnMiller3 · Jan 22, 2003

...I leave the unit plugged in all night or is just wiser to plug it a couple hours prior to using the tractor?...

Well... if you have stock in the electric company... leave it plugged in all the time... /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

...or buy a cheapo $5. electric timer and set it to come on, a few hours before your intended usage... /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif