Difference Between Two Air Compressors

[BillyP]

I've been thinking about getting me a two stage air compressor. What I'm wondering is if anyone knows the difference between the 2 IR compressors listed below?

The first one is the IR TS4N5 from Tractor Supply. The second one is the IR 2430N5 from Max Tools. What I'm wondering is if there's $250.00 difference in the two?

Tractor Supply Company - Ingersoll Rand TWO-STAGE POWER

MaxTool.com - Get the lowest price on name brand tools and equipment.

 

[George2615]

The maxtool ad says the 2430N5 replaces the TS4N5. I think its probably a newer model. Specs look similar. Price is different only because its a different company selling that has a different profit margin. Just my opinion but I'd save the $250 and go with the TSC model. You might even get a 10% dicount if you ask at the register. I've asked for a discount on large purchases at the checkout and they said "sure, I can do that"

 

[schmism]

from the one thats about $100 more

"Includes a FREE IR Start-Up Kit, ... a $99.00 Value"

"nothings ever free"

 

[1962]

Sorry to dredge up such an old thread but I need some help on this matter also.

What is the difference between these two?

One has a vertical cylinder pump and the other has a V cylinder pump. Both are two stage 175 psi and have about the same CFM rating.
Is one better than the other?

The IR TS45N from TSC is $999.00. The best price I found on the IR 2430N5 is $1299.00. These prices are for the compressors only, no start up kits (oil) and no bells and whistles.

I have also been considering a quincy compressor the same size as the IR.

Please help me out here my current compressor is shot and I want to replce it ASAP.

 

[Bird]

One has a vertical cylinder pump and the other has a V cylinder pump. Both are two stage 175 psi and have about the same CFM rating.
Is one better than the other?

For a personal, not necessarily scientific, opinion . . . all else being equal I'd prefer the V cylinders, primarily because I believe they will cool better and therefore lengthen the life of the compressor if it's run continuously for long periods of time. As a practical matter, for most of us, either one should last a lifetime.

 

[scgargoyle]

If it's going to be in the same building with you, check the pump RPM. A friend of mine bought a huge Sears which worked great, but it ran 3000 RPM, and the noise was horrendous! He finally sold it and bought an old Quincy that chugged along at 600 RPM. Much easier on the ears!

 

[kenmac]

I bought this one 318VL BelAire Air Compressor - Price Online about 2-3 yrs ago for 1300.00 they have gone up a bit

 

[Scooby074]

If it's going to be in the same building with you, check the pump RPM. A friend of mine bought a huge Sears which worked great, but it ran 3000 RPM, and the noise was horrendous! He finally sold it and bought an old Quincy that chugged along at 600 RPM. Much easier on the ears!

Truer words never spoken!! "cheap" compressors often have to overspeed the pump to deliver the advertised CFM. A slow speed (6-700) RPM pump is much quieter and will last longer.

 

[1962]

Ingersoll Rand 80-Gallon Two-Stage Air Compressor, 5 HP - 3496129 | Tractor Supply Company

Here is the link. I think at this higher end of compressor they all turn slow.

 

[1962]

Ingersoll Rand 2340L5.230-1 - 5-HP 60-Gallon Two-Stage Air Compressor (230V 1-Phase)

Here is the other link.

 

[Scooby074]

Ingersoll Rand 80-Gallon Two-Stage Air Compressor, 5 HP - 3496129 | Tractor Supply Company

Here is the link. I think at this higher end of compressor they all turn slow.

I wouldnt count on it. $900 really isnt a higher end compressor. I gave a quick search but could find no reference to the actual compressor RPM on the IR site. Maybe someone can confirm what speed these compressors run at.

 

[cfabe]

My brother in law recently got one of the 80gal IR compressors from TSC. Overall it's a good quality unit for the price. They use a 3450 rpm motor and I'd guess the pump is probably running 1000-1200 rpm. So it's not as bad as the cheap craftsman direct drive compressors but it's not a 600rpm unit either. Sound was not obnoxious but I've heard quieter compressors.

 

[1962]

I wouldnt count on it. $900 really isnt a higher end compressor. I gave a quick search but could find no reference to the actual compressor RPM on the IR site. Maybe someone can confirm what speed these compressors run at.

Very true, I didnt mean higher end of two stage reciprocating pumps. Higher end as compared to what I have and most single stage compressors.

I have found that IR is not listing the pump speed. But on these two less expensive models I am comparing the motor speeds are 3450rpm.

Something else that I have found out is that the 1725rpm motors are on units around $1799.99.

That is just not in the budget. Anymore info is most welcome. But I want to keep the cost to no more than $1300.00

 

[1962]

My brother in law recently got one of the 80gal IR compressors from TSC. Overall it's a good quality unit for the price. They use a 3450 rpm motor and I'd guess the pump is probably running 1000-1200 rpm. So it's not as bad as the cheap craftsman direct drive compressors but it's not a 600rpm unit either. Sound was not obnoxious but I've heard quieter compressors.

That's the same one I have been considering. Any of these machines are a step up from my campbell hausfeld single stage.

I have also been looking at quincy brand compressors also. I like the motors better(baldor), I think the IR's I have been comparing have emerson motors.

 

[DanD78]

An old used Quincy pump will out last a new TSC or Sears any day. Quincy has great parts support and are good industrial pumps. It is tough to find ones with out 3 phase motors but they are around. If you can find a Curtis, Gardner-Denver or an older IR they are all good pumps as well. The cast iron pumps are hard to beat.

Dan

 

[1962]

An old used Quincy pump will out last a new TSC or Sears any day. Quincy has great parts support and are good industrial pumps. It is tough to find ones with out 3 phase motors but they are around. If you can find a Curtis, Gardner-Denver or an older IR they are all good pumps as well. The cast iron pumps are hard to beat.

Dan

These compressors I am looking at are not TSC or sears brands, they are ingersoll rand.
Tractor supply just sells them.



Been looking for a used old school compressor for a couple years. Everything I have found is 3 phase, or to far away and shipping costs makes it unreasonable. To replace the motor to a single phase baldor motor is not cheap.

 

[1962]

During a search I came across eaton compressors. They seem to fit the bill for what I am looking for in a compressor. Less than 900 rpm pump speed, all cast iron, and a great warrenty.

Any members have one?

Eaton Compressor & Fabrication Inc

 

[Scooby074]

During a search I came across eaton compressors. They seem to fit the bill for what I am looking for in a compressor. Less than 900 rpm pump speed, all cast iron, and a great warrenty.

Any members have one?

Eaton Compressor & Fabrication Inc

THis may or may not matter to you, but Eaton has a reputation for false advertising. Matter of fact they threatened several people and web forums for publishing that their product was falsly labeled Made in USA. http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/eaton-compressor-threatens-sue-me-over-made-china-compressor-post-143953.html?

Too bad you wernt at the auction i went to today. A very nice 5hp 2 stage (binks i think) compressor sold for $300. And a AWESOME Atlas Copco Airlet LE8 (28CFM) compressor went for 400!!!!! I would have been ALL OVER THEM but i was saving my cash for a plasma.

Turned out the plasma went for big money (too much). Someone STOLE those compressors. I should have bid on them. Hindsight is 2020.

 

[1962]

Thanks for the input scooby. I have been really searching hard and I am going to look at a 1980's kellogg american later this week.
I passed on a IR 7.5 hp 80 gal. It was used a couple hours according to the owner and was still strapped to the shipping pallet. The motor speed was 3450rpm and they were asking $750.

I am going to pass on the eaton compressors and try to find a good used compressor locally.

 

[Scooby074]

Im not necessarily saying Eaton is a bad compressor. Many have them and are quite happy. 1ust some of their business practices leave a lot to be desired.

Good luck on your hunt. Do you ever get a chance to get to any auctions? Smaller auctions are where some of the best deals are found.