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I'm scratching my head on this. We get an average snowfall of 6 to 7 feet per year and usually build up a maximum of about 3 feet on the ground. The pole barn roof gets less buildup because of more heating from the sun and it will slide off. My chimney sticks up about 5 feet above the roof surface. I never notice any snow piling up abnormally around it and I've never heard of a chimney affected by snow.

I'm imagining a partially melted/refrozen heavy layer a foot or more thick all sliding off at once?
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #142  
I'm imagining a partially melted/refrozen heavy layer a foot or more thick all sliding off at once?

I can't see it. If it could sit long enough to build that depth why would it slide at all?
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #143  
My concern is snow accumulation taking out the chimney on the roof. My neighbor down the road had his taken off by snow last winter. He just installed a propane furnace and took the exhaust through the wall. Said he would never go through the roof again. He gave me his wood stove for my new pole barn so now I'm worried about a through the roof chimney. We do get an average of 3-4 foot of snow. Is this a valid concern?

Lots of snow where my grandparents live and chimneys are almost always at the peak of the roof and within arms length... furnace, fireplace, stove tend to be right in the center of the floorplan
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #144  
I can't see it. If it could sit long enough to build that depth why would it slide at all?

A warm up? Same thing that rips eave troughs off houses.

Neighbor at my farm has metal roof on his house. Up about a foot from his eaves are knife looking devices sticking up about 4", a foot apart. They cut the frozen material as it slides down to protect his troughs.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #145  
Ok, I did some research and found out that the average snowfall for the Deadwood-Lead SD area is 116". We do have warmups in the early February timeframe.The neighbor did tell me that his chimney started leaking before the snow took it off. I remember his chimney was on the downside of the roof close to the eve. Sounds like it had a bunch of snow/ice on the peak and slid off taking it down?
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #146  
Your chimney should be reasonably close to the peak of the roof since it needs to extend about 3 feet above the peak. If your stove is not near the center of the building, run your pipe up and elbow horizontally under the ceiling (with proper clearances) to get nearer the peak. Chimneys close to the eaves are not good for several reasons.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #147  
My stack is on the back of my house but I have two truss rods that help hold it in place.
 
   / Do we need a warm garage.... #149  
My stack is on the back of my house but I have two truss rods that help hold it in place.

It's very easy for me to tell you what's wrong with that setup.
 
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Your chimney should be reasonably close to the peak of the roof since it needs to extend about 3 feet above the peak. If your stove is not near the center of the building, run your pipe up and elbow horizontally under the ceiling (with proper clearances) to get nearer the peak. Chimneys close to the eaves are not good for several reasons.
I'm still thinking of living dangerously and going through the wall. Hate to put a hole in a perfect roof :) I did find this today. Chimney Height: The 2 foot, 1 foot, 3 foot Rule | Ask The Chimney Sweep
 
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pipe thru the wall = I've never understood why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good roof. I built a dual wall pipe thru the wall. My stove pipe goes thru that. No worry of too much heat at the wall.

purpose of heat reclaimer = the temp difference below the reclaimer and above the reclaimer is 150 degrees. Works pretty good huh. If you look at it there are round tubes that go thru the box. Behind the box is a squirrel cage fan blowing air thru those tubes. Thus reclaimer. I'm using that 150 degree heat rather than letting it escape up the chimney. I built it.

shop ceiling height = 10ft at the eave, 12ft in the center. Vaulted ceiling. All steel building.

chimney pipe size = I used what I had. 1/4" wall steel pipe.

The actual temp drop from the top of the stove to the chimney going out the wall is 420F degrees. Even with that I'm a bit disappointed that my outside chimney pipe is still at 92F degrees. But it doesn't soot up so I guess losing that heat is work it.

According to Albert Eisenstein and his theory of relativity with his mathematical equation's, he stated a hole threw the roof is better = less heat loss out of the building = less carbon footprint = less heat in the atmosphere that cause global warming, well there you have it, how can you disagree with Albert.

? Vaulted ceiling, is that like a culvert type roof, ? Squirrel cage fan, <<what, you have a trained squirrel to power a fan.....Also I'm still fascinated with that heat reclaimer, what do I need to make one, if it's easy to build I like to add one to my pipe, send me the blue prints so I can see if it's above my pay grade.
 
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I'm still thinking of living dangerously and going through the wall. Hate to put a hole in a perfect roof :) I did find this today. Chimney Height: The 2 foot, 1 foot, 3 foot Rule | Ask The Chimney Sweep
Good input here, thanks>"What is the 2 foot, 10 foot, 3 foot rule? This rule indicates that the chimney must be at least 2 feet taller than any structure within 10 feet of it and also at least 3 feet higher than the point at which it penetrates the roof"<<<Guess I have to add a little more length to my pipe, ended up with 28" above peak, pipe center is 16"ish below peak.
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I'm scratching my head on this. We get an average snowfall of 6 to 7 feet per year and usually build up a maximum of about 3 feet on the ground. The pole barn roof gets less buildup because of more heating from the sun and it will slide off. My chimney sticks up about 5 feet above the roof surface. I never notice any snow piling up abnormally around it and I've never heard of a chimney affected by snow.

Head&shoulders works for me. I ended up with 5-1/2">>12" pitch on my steel roofing, enough so cant keep 4" of snow on it, like watching it slide off, first winter when it did, it folded back over my screens that cover the roof gutters, had to ladder up and wire those screens down.
 
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My concern is snow accumulation taking out the chimney on the roof. My neighbor down the road had his taken off by snow last winter. He just installed a propane furnace and took the exhaust through the wall. Said he would never go through the roof again. He gave me his wood stove for my new pole barn so now I'm worried about a through the roof chimney. We do get an average of 3-4 foot of snow. Is this a valid concern?

Had to of been chimney pipe installed with Laurel and Hardy skills, cement block wont move. When I get another section on my chimney pipe, I'll add some roof chimney braces, right now the roof flashing cone is supporting my pipe that's 28" above peck, and that is glued and screwed down, I have to hook my tractor on it to pull it down. Snow taking my chimney down, that will be a cold day in hade's.........
 

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