Drying Firewood

[CRThomas]

I agree. I hope he's not selling firewood by the ton. In New Hampshire it's illegal to sell firewood by the ton. It also sends up a huge red flag cause you're usually being taken advantage of unless you're buying by the cord.

I do not sell by the ton when I p/u I have to go over the scales. When I dump it I book it I sell rank and half rank. If they say it illegal call some body else and I drive off. When you sell dry wood and the right amount

 

[CRThomas]

When was it cut? If it was recent, it's going to take a while to get down to a decent moisture level or considered 'dry'. Depending on the species, this can range from 40%-65% when initially cut. Even at 20% moisture, it only has available heat of approximately 80% of total energy content. So I'm going to say, 'a while' or likely 4-6mths if it was freshly cut and I would lean more towards 6mths as ideally it should be dried for longer than that.

The wood I am wanting to dry has been down in logs for 2 to 3 years from a wind and ice storm we had. They are all over our area the people want them removed. I had plenty of firewood because I only sold bundles I took on a a pardner he started selling firewood in bulk so we are out and our kiln won't keep up. Looking for another way to dry wood to sell we have customers we can't let down because our wood was dry a little more that a rank. Thanks for the help

 

[Short Game]

Two years old should help. Most woods, once seasoned, usually dry much faster than green, after being bucked and split.

 

[turnkey4099]

I do not sell by the ton when I p/u I have to go over the scales. When I dump it I book it I sell rank and half rank. If they say it illegal call some body else and I drive off. When you sell dry wood and the right amount

If I read you right, you would sooner lose a customer rather than comply with an industry standard. Seems rather odd.

Harry K

 

[CRThomas]

If I read you right, you would sooner lose a customer rather than comply with an industry standard. Seems rather odd.

Harry K

When person informs me I might be cheating them I don't want them as a customer. I have went home and got my 48 x 48 x 32 came back to prove they are not being cheated alway have more left over. I put back in my truck the sale off. The area I live in other people a rank is ranger pickup with four foot bed threw in level of wood that's has been just cut out behind there house that is advertised as kiln dry. I do not want to be said to be one of the type I will go out of business first. Most of my customers are women no
problem but here comes the macho with his bull. The lady's don't
know the difference but I do. We make sure to go out of our way. We just got a $600.00 deal for being honest. With our customers. A customer thanks I am cheating him he no longer a customer. Selling
wood is a shady deal were I live any way. I guess your standers is different from our my rank is 4' x 4' x 32" my half rank is 4' x 4' x 16" this what my customers want and the 4 x 4 that comes with the firewoo.

 

[Delaware Devil]

Anyone dealing a product should know the laws about selling that product. Should be accurate in their measurements. You don't want to pay for a gallon of gas and only get 3 quarts. Same with firewood. The U.S. Department of Agriculture established the Bureau of Weights and Measures to keep unscrupulous dealers in check, no matter what the sell. They have branches in all states and are fully accessable to the general public. I live in Delaware (obviously) And will post a link to our local office. At one time they didn't pay much heed to firewood, not when it was $60.00 a cord, but with tough times and firewood reaching $150.00 a cord they are more willing to prosecute. Same fines as a gas station shorting you on gas.
the link
http://dda.delaware.gov/pressrel/2011/101011_Firewd-fuel.pdf

I hope this helps some

 

[bigbull338]

if you have logs that have been down 2 or 3yrs its more than seasoned.it takes 3 to 4 months for wood to season an cure depending on the weather.

 

[leonz]

Anyone dealing a product should know the laws about selling that product. Should be accurate in their measurements. You don't want to pay for a gallon of gas and only get 3 quarts. Same with firewood. The U.S. Department of Agriculture established the Bureau of Weights and Measures to keep unscrupulous dealers in check, no matter what the sell. They have branches in all states and are fully accessable to the general public. I live in Delaware (obviously) And will post a link to our local office. At one time they didn't pay much heed to firewood, not when it was $60.00 a cord, but with tough times and firewood reaching $150.00 a cord they are more willing to prosecute. Same fines as a gas station shorting you on gas.
the link
http://dda.delaware.gov/pressrel/2011/101011_Firewd-fuel.pdf

I hope this helps some

To which I say Bravo!!!!,

I preach everyday to sell green or seasoned firewood
by the pound or ton with scale tickets and or certified
scales.

 

[leonz]

If you can find customers gullible enough to purchase wood by the ton, leave it at 50 percent and give um a real good screwin.:laughing:

As long as a scale ticket is presented to the buyer for the firewood it is not illegal or screwing your customer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Selling firewood by the ton is not illegal in any State. selling and misrepresenting green fire wood for seasoned firewood is illegal
if the moisture content is verified with a scale ticket as secondary evidence.

In New York State it is also legal to buy firewood and fireood logs by weight.
One local processor pays $33.00 per ton for firewood logs delivered
to his yard and weighed on his certified scale.

Standard firewood measures are a stacked cord being 48 by 48 by 96 inches,
128 cubic feet, or a face cord is considered basicly 48 by 18 by 96 inches BUT a face cord could also be cut at 12 inches which is what I length cut my wood at which gives you 4 face cords in one cord measure.

Some states are loosy goosy about firewood measurements and rick and rank are very old measures. With the emerald ash borer and termites becoming a greater issue the rick and rank measures will be a thing of the past eventually as legal measures for sales by weight OF ANY MATERIAL are legal means of conducting commerce.

Heat Dried/Kiln Dried firewood for sale has more value in any case and you have to have a market for the kiln dried wood to be able to sell it.


The old hay mow method of dryng always works and its easy to accomplish.

You can simply make a rectangular frame of any particular
length with 2 by 4's and making the frame with 4 by 4's to
secure the 2 by 4's to separating the lengths of 2 by 4's by
an inch to allow the air to flow into the wood you throw on
top of it or through the sides.


You can buy a fan and shutter to mount on the end of the air
drying frame and simply run it during the daylight hours and
shut it off at night.

You can always build a long plywood plenum and paint it black
and place it behind the fan and preheat the air entering the fan
and the slatted wood drying frame.



The very end of the air conduit is sealed up with a piece of
plywood to seal the end and keep all the air flowing through
the wood pile.

Throw the wood over the rectangular air conduit you made
of wood to make a pile and cover it with a "very good quality tarp"
that is water proof and weigh the edges of the tarp down to
hold it in place while you are drying the wood.

You simply run the fan which is attached to one end of the conduit
to aid in drying the wood to a certain percentage of your choosing
if you have a moisture meter.

Examining the wood for checking and cracking is also a good way to
guage drying along with a good bathroom scale to weigh the sample
piece of firewood kept in the pile.You do this before drying and during
drying to guage the amount of drying you have accomplished.

 

[bigbull338]

as to selling greenwood its up the the seller tobe honest an tell the truth about the wood.but the truth is alot of people cant look at wood an tell if its seasoned or not.im pretty good at telling if the wood is seasoned.an if its green i hope i can give it time to cure.