DS4110 vs DK40SE

[blucoondawg]

The DK has a syncronized shuttle and main transmission. You can foward/reverse whithout coming to a complete stop and you can shift through the gears on the go.
But you do need to use the cluch to shift.
Not sure how the DS works but according to the website there are 2 versions of the 4110. The DS4110 non sycronized with dry clutch and the DS 4110hs with sycronized hydraulic clutch.
Personally for $900 more I would go with the DK. It has a lot more nice standand features.
Rear remotes, extendable lower link arms, suspension seat, skid steer style QA, Etc.

That's what I am thinking on the DK as well, I don't mind the clutch to change gears but I would rather not need it to change forward/reverse. I see you have a Rhino backhoe, how do you like it? Any problems with it? Does it have replaceable bushings on all the pins?

 

[DK35vince]

I see you have a Rhino backhoe, how do you like it? Any problems with it? Does it have replaceable bushings on all the pins?

By looking at my backhoes parts manual it shows bushing listed in most of the wear areas of the hoe.
I like my Rhino backhoe. Seems to have good power and the controls work nice.
The only issue I ever had was a few of the subframe bolts would work loose and need retightning all the time. I welded the subframe in that area and never had any more problem.

 

[blucoondawg]

Well I went down and looked over the tractors today, it didn't take me long to decide the DS line wasn't for me, they had 4 of them on the lot and the fit and finish on them was horrible. I was surprised they let them out of the factory like that, the front of the tractor looked ok but the fenders looked like they had been through a roll over accident and hammered back straight as possible, then had a poor bondo job done and repainted, they were all wavy like restraightened metal and one was rusting rather badly through the seams of the fender. Also by the time I add rear remotes the price would be so close I may as well go with the nicer model to begin with. Also I am probably going with a DK50SE hydro, I drove it and the tranny was much smoother than many hydros I have driven and it didn't have the whine noise or the jerkyness some have when letting off the pedal, they have one on the lot and the price is within 500 dollars of the 40 and 130 dollars of the 45 so may as well go with the big one for the cost and never worry about trading up :thumbsup:

 

[k0ua]

Well I went down and looked over the tractors today, it didn't take me long to decide the DS line wasn't for me, they had 4 of them on the lot and the fit and finish on them was horrible. I was surprised they let them out of the factory like that, the front of the tractor looked ok but the fenders looked like they had been through a roll over accident and hammered back straight as possible, then had a poor bondo job done and repainted, they were all wavy like restraightened metal and one was rusting rather badly through the seams of the fender. Also by the time I add rear remotes the price would be so close I may as well go with the nicer model to begin with. Also I am probably going with a DK50SE hydro, I drove it and the tranny was much smoother than many hydros I have driven and it didn't have the whine noise or the jerkyness some have when letting off the pedal, they have one on the lot and the price is within 500 dollars of the 40 and 130 dollars of the 45 so may as well go with the big one for the cost and never worry about trading up :thumbsup:

I think you will be very pleased with that purchase. Yes the DK hydro is noticably less whiney that others. And the pedal damper is very smooth also. My DK35se only whines a little bit in HI and pulling a hill, otherwise none.

James K0UA

 

[MotorSeven]

BCD, I've said it before, and it's only my "opinion", but I will never ever go back to gear. I really like my Hydro, it does everything I ask and then some. I do a lot of loader/fork/bucket/hay spear work and the hydro is so smooth it makes these tasks a pleasure. None of the herky jerkyness of a gear or shuttle(no, a shuttle is not near as smooth as a Hydro). I'm glad you went and tried them out.....there is a huge difference in their "personalities".

 

[blucoondawg]

I am still harboring a little fear of what it will cost if that Hydro tranny craps out on me, but I suppose it isn't cheap to fix a tranny no matter what type you have.

 

[k0ua]

There are a lot more busted clutches than there are busted hydro's on this forum. Now you did say earlier that you know how to properly drive a clutch equipped rig, but some people do not. Hydro's are very reliable. and have been around a long time. Gear rigs are very reliable also, and clutches can last a long time if not abused.

James K0UA

 

[blucoondawg]

Yes the clutch is the weak link of the gear tranny, and if my wife decides shes gonna be using the tractor, who knows how long the clutch would last, with the hydro she can jump on and take off without me worrying if she's slippin on the clutch or riding it or whatever else people who aren't familiar with them can do. Going to the bigger HP I don't so much care about power loss. It would be a pain having to clutch every time you change direction.

 

[MotorSeven]

Your right, any major repair of a tranny is going to be expensive. For me it's worth the extra money up front, and worth what ever it might cost to repair down the road.

 

[VictorW]

For the extra money you mentioned, it should make everyone happy. You'll have all the power you need, rear remotes, some other operator comforts, and the hydro really is nice to use, especially for loader work. Normally going up to a hydro in the same model is @$1000 but you're going up in power too for only $500. That's a deal not to pass up and the hydro will be forgiving on an operator who isn't good with a clutch. Your wife, probably like mine, will enjoy the hydro and you might have to schedule seat time.