Email Subscription

[Soundguy]

I went to the snail mail box today and there was a bill from 'Centry Link' when did ATT become Centry link? I don't know if that helps to solve my notification problem or not. :confused2:

century link, here, bought embarq, which had been sprint.

I have a century link account due to my dsl service. but I also have an old att account I've had for 24ys... their servers are now on yahoo equipment. i don't think there is any connection between att and century link... except you may have given CL your ATT address to send a bill to..

 

[Bird]

i don't think there is any connection between att and century link... except you may have given CL your ATT address to send a bill to..

I've never used WI-FI, but I think I saw somewhere that CenturyLink WI-FI is actually provided by AT&T.

 

[Soundguy]

could be. att has a huge wi-fi network. i know most business's that have wifi in my city are att

 

[WM75Guy]

Good thing I sit down to look at the computer or I would have fell in the floor - I got a subscription!!! Just one to a new thread I posted to today but hey, strange things have happened before, so maybe the problem is fixed. :thumbsup: AT&T/Yahoo.

 

[moored4]

Good thing I sit down to look at the computer or I would have fell in the floor - I got a subscription!!! Just one to a new thread I posted to today but hey, strange things have happened before, so maybe the problem is fixed. :thumbsup: AT&T/Yahoo.

I got excited and went and checked mine and still nothing !

 

[Soundguy]

nada here either..

 

[Zick]

Still not getting mine either and I'm not using AT&T nor Yahoo.

 

[Briana03]

Chilly807: Or try setting up an alternate email account for your TBN notifications, and forwarding the mail it receives to your normal email. I've done this using a Gmail account forwarded to my regular Hotmail.

Both are free, and as far as I know I'm getting all my updates.

It's not hard to do.

Sean

that's not such an easy thing to do! 1, it may be that your email comes as part of your paid internet connection.. and 2, while there are free services out there.. i find those free ones have the most problems with spam!

if you have had yer email for years or decades.. like I have. just running out and changing it at the drop of a hat is not a good idea. 20 ys of contacts to deal with?

soundguy

Hello Soundguy,

Chilly807 offered some good advice. As Ibrahim said, we haven't been able to find the perfect balance to serve every email carrier. And we have nearly reached our limit of what we can do here. So using another email carrier just for TBN mail is a great solution.

Having a second email address to link to your TBN account is not as hard as you might think. You can continue to use your current address for personal contacts or whatever you have been using it for thus far, but the new, alternate email address you create will only be given to TBN so all you will get is TBN subscription notifications, the newsletter, etc.

I know Gmail in particular has a great forwarding option that allows you to automatically have your mail sent to another email address (your original ATT email account!), so once you set it up, it really eliminates the whole issue of not receiving notifications from us. I believe other email carriers have the same forwarding abilities as well.

I have found Gmail to be great at filtering spam. I have never received any spam messages in my inbox and I've been with them for over 7 years.

So please see if you can find another way to make this work for you. We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

Thank You,

 

[Soundguy]

it's odd... i got the newsletter.. but not the subscriptions..

 

[Zick]

Hello Soundguy,

Chilly807 offered some good advice. As Ibrahim said, we haven't been able to find the perfect balance to serve every email carrier. And we have nearly reached our limit of what we can do here. So using another email carrier just for TBN mail is a great solution.

Having a second email address to link to your TBN account is not as hard as you might think. You can continue to use your current address for personal contacts or whatever you have been using it for thus far, but the new, alternate email address you create will only be given to TBN so all you will get is TBN subscription notifications, the newsletter, etc.

I know Gmail in particular has a great forwarding option that allows you to automatically have your mail sent to another email address (your original ATT email account!), so once you set it up, it really eliminates the whole issue of not receiving notifications from us. I believe other email carriers have the same forwarding abilities as well.

I have found Gmail to be great at filtering spam. I have never received any spam messages in my inbox and I've been with them for over 7 years.

So please see if you can find another way to make this work for you. We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

Thank You,

Interesting, I just tested this by changing from my normal Hotmail email to my GMAIL email and I just got a subscription email notification for the first time in like forever.

I will probably leave it like this even though I don't feel it is what I should have to do to fix this issue. I also find it odd that out of the many forums that I'm on, this is the only one that I have issues getting subscription notifications to work w/ my Hotmail account.

 

[Soundguy]

multiple email accounts and handling isn't something I want to undertake either at this point.

I'll just continue to hit 'my home' and see what I'm missing so far..

 

[Scotty Dive]

multiple email accounts and handling isn't something I want to undertake either at this point.

I'll just continue to hit 'my home' and see what I'm missing so far..

I TOTALLY agree. This is no way to run a site (business) It may be free to us, but they are pulling in revenue from advertising. Also - any new members will have no idea that they need a seperate and special email address to receive forum messages.

I am on tons of different forums and this is the only one that cannot figure it out. BTW....this has been an issue since at least December of 2011.

TBN - get your act together!

 

[Soundguy]

i think it's probably limited to certain email systems.. perhaps those with more stringent spam handling.. etc. I know AT&T is rough on certain senders.. usually when problem occurs, the sender's domain is black listed for months.. in the old days when at&t actually had their own servers and were not under yahoo... you could simply send in a email and get your sender unblocked. now? fawgetaboutit....

since I've been on at&t for about 23ys I've almost never seen an announcement.

there were 2 brief periods i did get them.. was fun.

I do still get the newsletter... sometimes...

 

[aczlan]

I am on tons of different forums and this is the only one that cannot figure it out. BTW....this has been an issue since at least December of 2011.

How big are these other sites?
From what I do at work and reading between the lines of what the admins have posted, it sounds like TBN is big enough that it is getting flagged as a spammer for sending too much (very similar) email out.
Just a guess here with some guesstimated numbers, but there are 134k users on TBN and if 10% of them get 1 email notification per day, that is 13,000 emails per day. If an additional 1% of the members are very active and get 5 emails per day, that is around 19,700 emails per day.
That is a lot of emails, enough to make AOL or Yahoo complain, especially if people go and hit the spam button to get rid of the message rather then the delete button (I see 1-3 of those per week for our domain from AOL users and we only average ~20 emails/day to AOL out of ~1000 emails/day that go to the outside world)
As for Yahoo, they are a world unto themselves and don't care what anyone else does. There is NO way that I have found for a small to midsize webmaster to contact them and get a real person to find out why their emails are getting bounced, or to report a Yahoo user who is sending 20+ spam emails per day to one of your users.
Aaron Z

 

[aczlan]

i think it's probably limited to certain email systems.. perhaps those with more stringent spam handling.. etc. I know AT&T is rough on certain senders.. usually when problem occurs, the sender's domain is black listed for months.. in the old days when at&t actually had their own servers and were not under yahoo... you could simply send in a email and get your sender unblocked. now? fawgetaboutit....

What I find to be funny about the Yahoo approach is that I MIGHT get 5 spam emails per year to my gmail account which I use everywhere.
I have a Yahoo account that I haven't used in YEARS and when I re-activated it to test something for work, I started getting spam within 10 minutes.

Aaron Z

 

[Zick]

How big are these other sites?
From what I do at work and reading between the lines of what the admins have posted, it sounds like TBN is big enough that it is getting flagged as a spammer for sending too much (very similar) email out.
Just a guess here with some guesstimated numbers, but there are 134k users on TBN and if 10% of them get 1 email notification per day, that is 13,000 emails per day. If an additional 1% of the members are very active and get 5 emails per day, that is around 19,700 emails per day.
That is a lot of emails, enough to make AOL or Yahoo complain, especially if people go and hit the spam button to get rid of the message rather then the delete button (I see 1-3 of those per week for our domain from AOL users and we only average ~20 emails/day to AOL out of ~1000 emails/day that go to the outside world)
As for Yahoo, they are a world unto themselves and don't care what anyone else does. There is NO way that I have found for a small to midsize webmaster to contact them and get a real person to find out why their emails are getting bounced, or to report a Yahoo user who is sending 20+ spam emails per day to one of your users.
Aaron Z

A few that I'm on have 122K+, 167K+, 207K+ and 307K+.

 

[Soundguy]

I believe you are correct.

look at very active users.. ( blabbermouths ).. like me. I might be subscribed to 15-30 active posts per day....

also look at service outtages. I remember back when i was actually getting announcements for a while.. then tbn went down for maintenance or something.. when they came back up.. probably a HUGE amount of notices went out... that killed it again for me and it's been no announcements since. IMHO.. that large amount of traffic they passed triggered spam filters all over..e tc..

oddly enough.. I'm on at least one other site that is decently high volume.. perhaps smaller than TBN.. but larger than most of the rest of the sites, and their notices have rarely ended up in att's spam catcher. I have on very odd occasion seen one go into the spam catcher ( which is set to delete in 1 day ).. but I can only see that if I hit the webmail section.. using a offline client like i do 99.99999999999% of the time.. i never see any 'caught' spam as anything spam or in my restrict / ignore box is set to delete at server.. etc..


soundguy

How big are these other sites?
From what I do at work and reading between the lines of what the admins have posted, it sounds like TBN is big enough that it is getting flagged as a spammer for sending too much (very similar) email out.
Just a guess here with some guesstimated numbers, but there are 134k users on TBN and if 10% of them get 1 email notification per day, that is 13,000 emails per day. If an additional 1% of the members are very active and get 5 emails per day, that is around 19,700 emails per day.
That is a lot of emails, enough to make AOL or Yahoo complain, especially if people go and hit the spam button to get rid of the message rather then the delete button (I see 1-3 of those per week for our domain from AOL users and we only average ~20 emails/day to AOL out of ~1000 emails/day that go to the outside world)
As for Yahoo, they are a world unto themselves and don't care what anyone else does. There is NO way that I have found for a small to midsize webmaster to contact them and get a real person to find out why their emails are getting bounced, or to report a Yahoo user who is sending 20+ spam emails per day to one of your users.
Aaron Z

 

[aczlan]

I believe you are correct.
look at very active users.. ( blabbermouths ).. like me. I might be subscribed to 15-30 active posts per day....

I figured that there were some of those, but didn't want to point them out

also look at service outtages. I remember back when i was actually getting announcements for a while.. then tbn went down for maintenance or something.. when they came back up.. probably a HUGE amount of notices went out... that killed it again for me and it's been no announcements since. IMHO.. that large amount of traffic they passed triggered spam filters all over..e tc..

IIRC, TBN changed IP addresses at that time as well which probbaly made yahoo VERY unhappy. When we did that (changed the outgoing address from .1 to .254 of the same subnet) it took 3 weeks for Yahoo to get used to the new address, even though everything was correct in our DNS records.
Speaking of DNS records, I got a notification of a PM and in the headers, it said that

Received-SPF: softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning nobody@imcuniverse.com does not designate 208.100.21.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=208.100.21.177;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=softfail (google.com: domain of transitioning nobody@imcuniverse.com does not designate 208.100.21.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@imcuniverse.com
Received: by webserv3.imcuniverse.com (Postfix, from userid 65534)

IMO, that is where the one of the problems is... Yahoo is forcing people to use SPF and if you dont have it, it can cause problems with sending emails.


Just my $0.02

Aaron Z

 

[Soundguy]

interesting...

 

[aczlan]

interesting...

Very. We have an offsite vendor who sends out the bulk of our emails (from the outside, it would look like imcuniverse.com vs tractorbynet.com for the sender), but we added them to our SPF record and have had no noticeable problems with bounced emails form anyone (other than people mistyping email addresses).

Aaron Z