exploding trailer tires

   / exploding trailer tires #31  
sandman2234 said:
A spare spare and a tire pressure guage. Plus some extra time to sit in the shade and let the tire cool down somewhere along the way. Running at night is the best option during too hot days.
David from jax


I loved running at night when I drove a truck.. less crazies to deal with, cooler...lots of good reasons

Do it whenever I can still.. even when I ran local hauling crude I worked at night during the summer to avoid the heat.. slept during the day...
 
   / exploding trailer tires #32  
Yep but....... I am gonna see if I can pick up a spare spare tommorow I doubt anyone has 8 hole 16 in stock...And its kinda hard to dicker horse trades in the middle of the night unless of course you happen to be a rustler.
 
   / exploding trailer tires #33  
Eight lug 16's are easy to find. In fact if you were closer I would give you two, as my truck runs bud wheels and singles don't work.
David from jax
 
   / exploding trailer tires #34  
Got a brand new one and a used LT235 85. Im ready let the suckers blow. Now if i just had a battery powered impact wrench
 
   / exploding trailer tires #35  
I will try to never buy another Carisle tire again.. We got a new popup camper and had a blowout on one of the first trips.. Moved spare onto the axle and bought a spare, and a spare spare... The next summer we had the other original tire and the original spare blow separately during a trip home from Myrtle Beach.. Total damage to camper was almost $800....

Filed a claim with carlisle and they passed it on to Goodyear, who actually made the tire them... Goodyear covered the damages luckily..

Around here you can pretty much ONLY get Carlisle trailer tires if you want it today..

Brian
 
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#36  
arrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhh
Another trailer flat today
I have 3 trailers (red, white, black (don't ask :rolleyes: ))
The red one was the exploding one in the first post, all 4 new tires. The black dump trailer had like 5 holes in one of it's tires a week ago, another new tire and now today, the white trailer (brand new in April) has a freaking hole in one of it's tires (load range G, i'm sure they are cheap, not :mad: )
Hopefully they can patch it.
Drove real slow on the way home, it would hold 60psi, but not 110psi.
 
   / exploding trailer tires #37  
LoneCowboy said:
arrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhh Another trailer flat today I have 3 trailers (red, white, black (don't ask :rolleyes: )) The red one was the exploding one in the first post, all 4 new tires. The black dump trailer had like 5 holes in one of it's tires a week ago, another new tire and now today, the white trailer (brand new in April) has a freaking hole in one of it's tires (load range G, i'm sure they are cheap, not :mad: ) Hopefully they can patch it. Drove real slow on the way home, it would hold 60psi, but not 110psi.
Don't feel so bad Brian. I had my share of trailer tire problems this weekend. I blew out both tires on the left hand side of my brand new Downeaster dump trailer... on the highway no less!!! :( And right in front of an unmarked state cop radar trap no less!!! :eek: Nobody was hurt and the trailer went right back into service an hour later with wheels & tires off my equipment trailer, but the cop ticketed me anyway for a "marked lanes" violation. Apparently, he did not like how close I came to him pulling over out of traffic as fast as I could. :( $100 fine (which I will definitely fight) and countless dollars to be lost on insurance points if this charge stands. :(

Reasons for the blowouts? Not entirely clear, but several prime suspects. Turns out that my Downeaster came with two different brands of wheels and tires... mounted one brand per side... which may have been braking very differently. The trailer had clearly been pulling to the left... with the left side tending to lock up first as I adjusted and set my brake controller. I never noticed the wheel and tire brand difference before this weekend's incident. Loadstar on one side (left) and Duro on the other (right). The loadstars blew out. The Duros held.

Also... no more ST225/75R15D tires ever again. I never trusted or wanted those skinny, ugly, undersized tires on either trailer and now I have paid the price for caving in on El Cheapo, crappy 10K trailers when I should have bought 12K trailers. Both of my trailers are getting upgraded to same brand 235 wide, 16 inch tires ASAP. Load range E if I can get them, otherwise load range D. Just not sure what type, aspect ratio and brand until I can do some serious investigation.

Did the two different brands/treads really lead to the blowouts? Who knows. I did instinctively apply the brakes to slow down when I saw the radar trap ahead... even though I was only going 55 MPH. Did the left side lock on me and blow? Quite possible I'm afraid. :(

I also found glass buried deeply into one tire... although it will never be known if this caused the first blowout or if this was something I ran over after the blowouts over in the breakdown lane. Regardless, once the first left side tire was gone, the second one on that side could not take double the load and blew out right behind the first. Nasty business! :mad:

This was my first trip on the highway at 55 MPH with a full rated load. Never again. I bought the wrong dump trailer with the wrong tires... two different brands worth I'm afraid. I'm certainly going to do the best I can with bigger, higher-rated tires... of the same type & brand... but I believe my initial compromise on trailer rating and price led to this mess and I'm thinking that a much higher quality dump trailer may be necessary for my long-term safety. :rolleyes:

Dougster
 
   / exploding trailer tires #38  
Hey guys, dont we have international tire ratings ???

If you refer to tires as "load range G" i think you guys dont have a clue about what it means, and i'm not surprised to hear all this tire horror...

The cipher/letter combination stands for a load index ( example: LI 128 means 1800 kg per tire) where the Q stands for, i think it was 160 km/h max speed.
You may install high speed tires under your trailers, but that has very little to do with actual load carrying capacity.

Compare this chart to what's under your trailer, then re concider your judgement on those "cheapo" trailer tires ;)
Goodyear-Load Index
p.s: "load range D" ??? tires are certainly not advisable for other than slow traffic and farm use ;)
 
   / exploding trailer tires #39  
Those ratings do not apply to trailer tires. Trailer tires are rated by the manufacture and never tested by the DOT ( in the US anyway) that is exactly why I never buy trailer tires. If they come on my trailer I replace them with LT tires everytime I ruin one which is not long for the junky made in China trailer tires. I have (Unfortunately) horse trailers that came with 235 85 16 trailer tires both have no name tires with no such ratings anywhere on the tires they just give a ply rating, number of plies and and a load range that the manufactuer assigned the tire. Who knows what they are really capable of carring. One of the brands does not even have the required date of manufactuer code at least not to US standards it may be in chinese. Pure junk.
 
   / exploding trailer tires #40  
Exploding Chinese tires have joined the toothpaste and pet food recalls. Google on 'Chinese tires recall' for many news stories. This one about a US lawsuit says the Chinese government-owned tire factory stopped including the tread-separation component in their tires.

Chinese Tires Are Ordered Recalled - New York Times


Renze - letter designations in the US are an old (and partly superseded) US standard that is different than Europe. To oversimplify, 'B' was a common 2-ply car tire, 'C' was a 4-ply heavy duty car or SUV tire, and the higher letters mean higher pressure and weight capacity for commercial applications. These aren't speed ratings like the European system.
 

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