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- Feb 21, 2003
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- SE Michigan in the middle of nowhere
- Tractor
- Kubota M9000 HDCC3 M9000 HDC
We mow with ZTR's actually. But then my tractors are way too large to mow the lawns with.
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Got any small places?Never saw any appeal in any sub-compact. I honesty don't know why they're as popular as they seem to be. Very poor value, when compared to any regular cat.1 CUT.
Not personally, I laid out our landscaping with a larger machine in mind, but you do make a good point. Again, the basis for that statement you quoted is solely on cost versus utility, I'm fully aware that there are some cases where the SCUT is still going to be the best tool for the job, despite its high cost/capability ratio.Got any small places?
I've had a SCUT since before they were called SCUTs. Very valuable in my World. Fills a niche. Currently mows the yard, hauls dirt, blades snow, runs a PTO seeder, all with a light small footprint.Never saw any appeal in any sub-compact. I honesty don't know why they're as popular as they seem to be. Very poor value, when compared to any regular cat.1 CUT.
I'll agree with that. My BIL has a JD SCUT w/FEL and hoe. It's a little better than a shovel.It just seems like the hoe and FEL are so over sized on the small tractor for the amount of capacity you get out of it.![]()
I must be an exception. My SCUT gets 80-100 hrs p/year. Without going out to the cold shed to look, it has somewhere around 1,300 hrs on it. Serves a very valuable role in my "suburbanite" world.Sub compacts are for suburbanites with excess funds that want to play the part but in reality don't have a clue. My Kubota dealer sells a ton of them and most never get many hours on them and certainly don't get maintained properly either.
Yep. That's a very common combination. I can't justify the cost of a ZTR to just do one task. That's where a SCUT shines brightly.We mow with ZTR's actually. But then my tractors are way too large to mow the lawns with.
I must be an exception. My SCUT gets 80-100 hrs p/year. Without going out to the cold shed to look, it has somewhere around 1,300 hrs on it. Serves a very valuable role in my "suburbanite" world.![]()
Yeah. Being able to do all the functions of a basic CUT but in a tiny package opens up all sorts of advantages. Mighty Mouse is the smallest of Kubota SCUTs, and literally the only thing I ever recall wishing for is a couple more HP when cutting grass with the 54" MMM and picking up leaves in our fields. Ours has 3750Hrs and it gets used about every day. Hay pickup, cutting yard and along fence lines, pulling fence posts, snow throwing, jockeying and/or backing up equipment to store/finagle into a tight space. Easy on and off, and to control when walking beside as applicable. Wont destroy you or a fence by accident.I can't justify the cost of a ZTR to just do one task. That's where a SCUT shines brightly.
Excellent example of an owner that needs and justifies a SCUT.Yeah. Being able to do all the functions of a basic CUT but in a tiny package opens up all sorts of advantages. Mighty Mouse is the smallest of Kubota SCUTs, and literally the only thing I ever recall wishing for is a couple more HP when cutting grass with the 54" MMM and picking up leaves in our fields. Ours has 3750Hrs and it gets used about every day. Hay pickup, cutting yard and along fence lines, pulling fence posts, snow throwing, jockeying and/or backing up equipment to store/finagle into a tight space. Easy on and off, and to control when walking beside as applicable. Wont destroy you or a fence by accident.
It would be a LOT more work to be without it.
I agree about the value quotient for something you can cover with your fingernail at a shorter given distance.Not personally, I laid out our landscaping with a larger machine in mind, but you do make a good point. Again, the basis for that statement you quoted is solely on cost versus utility, I'm fully aware that there are some cases where the SCUT is still going to be the best tool for the job, despite its high cost/capability ratio.
Having said that, I do believe that the majority of cases where someone might be running a subcompact, that my little old JD 855 compact (or even the modern JD 2032R compact), could probably do the job. Both have very small footprints and amazingly-tight turning radii, and both still have a standard cat.1 3-point. Surely not in all cases, but again, I was only speaking to their enormous popularity despite the cost.
When these things hit the market, I'd have expected them to fill some small niche in the market, as their pricing was almost boutique in comparison to their size and capabilities. I fully expected most would still choose a small compact with a cat.1 hitch, over an overgrown garden tractor with a then-very uncommon cat.0, but I guess my poor ability to predict demand is why I'm not a billionaire.
Most scuts are cat 1 as far as I know. At least for me, everything that needs doing with a tractor on my 2.6 acres, gets done with my massey scut. Personally, I have no use for a larger tractor.Not personally, I laid out our landscaping with a larger machine in mind, but you do make a good point. Again, the basis for that statement you quoted is solely on cost versus utility, I'm fully aware that there are some cases where the SCUT is still going to be the best tool for the job, despite its high cost/capability ratio.
Having said that, I do believe that the majority of cases where someone might be running a subcompact, that my little old JD 855 compact (or even the modern JD 2032R compact), could probably do the job. Both have very small footprints and amazingly-tight turning radii, and both still have a standard cat.1 3-point. Surely not in all cases, but again, I was only speaking to their enormous popularity despite the cost.
When these things hit the market, I'd have expected them to fill some small niche in the market, as their pricing was almost boutique in comparison to their size and capabilities. I fully expected most would still choose a small compact with a cat.1 hitch, over an overgrown garden tractor with a then-very uncommon cat.0, but I guess my poor ability to predict demand is why I'm not a billionaire.
"At least for me" and "Personally" are the two most important things you said.Most scuts are cat 1 as far as I know. At least for me, everything that needs doing with a tractor on my 2.6 acres, gets done with my massey scut. Personally, I have no use for a larger tractor.
That's interesting to hear, and might explain my surprise with their popularity. Back when I considered one about 10 years ago, I recall most if not all of them were not standard cat.1. Some were called "cat.0" or "cat.half" by their respective dealers, but nearly all failed to have the lift height required for some of my cat.1 implements. As with most things, manufacturers tend to adapt and improve on new things, with a little time.Most scuts are cat 1 as far as I know.
They're still limited to like 4 ft box blades and tillers, but I mean it's fine. Dudes use these commercially, some of them post here. But really, these are marketed to homeowners with a few acres. I plow with it, manage downed trees, clear out brush, haul this or that, haul away debris, dig out stumps, stuff like that.That's interesting to hear, and might explain my surprise with their popularity. Back when I considered one about 10 years ago, I recall most if not all of them were not standard cat.1. Some were called "cat.0" or "cat.half" by their respective dealers, but nearly all failed to have the lift height required for some of my cat.1 implements. As with most things, manufacturers tend to adapt and improve on new things, with a little time.
I use a 5' front blade and a 5' BB on my 2210. I have a 6' KK rototiller but haven't tried it on the little JD yet.They're still limited to like 4 ft box blades and tillers, but I mean it's fine. Dudes use these commercially, some of them post here. But really, these are marketed to homeowners with a few acres. I plow with it, manage downed trees, clear out brush, haul this or that, haul away debris, dig out stumps, stuff like that.
See that, even more stuff a scut can do.I use a 5' front blade and a 5' BB on my 2210. I have a 6' KK rototiller but haven't tried it on the little JD yet.![]()