First electric tractor ride

[bindian]

Boy am I glad I live where I do. No water regulations here, probably never will be either.

Which is where?
hugs, Brandi

 

[ArlyA]

Michigan does have water regulations.

 

[5030]

Michigan does have water regulations.

They do (like out west), I don't believe so. Care to elaborate on your statement...

 

[5030]

Yes, but your state bird is an issue.

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Don't look like a bird to me Mossy...

 

[4570Man]

We already made great strides in reducing pollution to where those orange clouds in your pics don't exists any more......except for the big factories that still pump out pollution. But nobody seems to worry about those, they just want to attack the homeowner and his weed eater.

Anyway, I'm taking great pleasure in watching the power grid in California fail. Bahahahaha.....have fun with your electric cars tree huggers.

They have record high heat and it wasn’t cool to start with, they are building more houses everyday ( which I’m not apposed to like some people) they’re wanting to add more load to the already suffering electric grid with electric cars. They’re nearing the point when they loose to ability to generate hydro power. The logical solution would build a nuclear power plant but their plan is to shut those down along with the coal and natural gas plants. They’ve not reached the point of collapse yet but it’s coming.

 

[lman]

Whatever you're reading isn't telling you the truth. The grid did fine, didn't fail like you said.

We experienced heat that has exceeded past records by substantial margins - 114 here with previous record 108 for example - and the overall system met the demand. It's not like that Texas winter case where everything went down for days and they said the windmills did it. (Actually their system control hardware wasn't winterized and didn't switch available generating resources online when needed).

A few small local-owned systems, small towns etc here, had to go to rolling blackouts due to their local insufficient distribution systems but the statewide overall grid met the challenge of this extraordinary weather. I saw many warnings that rolling blackouts might be invoked, few actually were.

Part of the overall planning is special low electric rates for users who agree to shut down when asked. Maybe that's what you read. Many electric car owners are on this plan and charge after midnight, they aren't part of the 4-9pm peak load.

We're doing ok. Now if people would quit moving here! Population 9 million when I was born, now 39 million. Nobody come here, it's too crowded!

Somebody opened the southern border. Maybe in a few years it will be closed again.

 

[lman]

Whatever you're reading isn't telling you the truth. The grid did fine, didn't fail like you said.

We experienced heat that has exceeded past records by substantial margins - 114 here with previous record 108 for example - and the overall system met the demand. It's not like that Texas winter case where everything went down for days and they said the windmills did it. (Actually their system control hardware wasn't winterized and didn't switch available generating resources online when needed).

A few small local-owned systems, small towns etc here, had to go to rolling blackouts due to their local insufficient distribution systems but the statewide overall grid met the challenge of this extraordinary weather. I saw many warnings that rolling blackouts might be invoked, few actually were.

Part of the overall planning is special low electric rates for users who agree to shut down when asked. Maybe that's what you read. Many electric car owners are on this plan and charge after midnight, they aren't part of the 4-9pm peak load.

We're doing ok. Now if people would quit moving here! Population 9 million when I was born, now 39 million. Nobody come here, it's too crowded!

Somebody opened the southern border. Maybe in a few years it will be closed again.

 

[ArlyA]

They do (like out west), I don't believe so. Care to elaborate on your statement...

Here is pasted just the 1st few pages from MI well water regulations book found here. Looks like regulation to me.

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MICHIGAN’S WATER WELL MANUAL
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Drinking Water & Municipal Assistance Division
Environmental Health Section
Source Water Unit
Well Construction Program

TABLE OF CONTENTS
Chapter Topic Page
1 Introduction, Safe Drinking Water Act, Water Well and
Pump Code, Local Health Department Role 3
2 Hydrogeology 8
3 Well Permitting, Isolation Distances, Deviations 21
4 Water System Sizing 29
5 Water Well Drilling Methods 43
6 Water Well Components, Types of Water Wells,
Drilling Site Evaluation52
7 Well Grouting 59
8 Well Screens, Well Development 78
9 Wellhead Completion, Pumps, Pressure Tanks 83
10 Water Well Disinfection 92
11 Water Sampling and Testing 101
12 Abandoned Wells 105
13 Cross Connections 110
14 Water Well Records 111
15 Inspections and Evaluations 117
16 Problem Wells: Flowing, Methane/Gas,
Sand/Turbidity, Low Capacity
123
Appendices Water Well & Pump Record, Abandoned Well
Plugging Record, Typical Household System, Water
Well Casing Standards, Contacts
138


MICHIGAN WATER WELL CONSTRUCTION AND PUMP INSTALLATION CODE
The first well code became effective on February 14, 1967, when the Michigan Department of Public
Health (now the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ)) promulgated the administrative
rules authorized by passage of the Ground Water Quality Control (GWQC) Act (1965 PA 294). The
most recent revisions to the well code went into effect on April 21, 1994. The statute authorizing the
well code is now Part 127 of the Michigan Public Health Code, 1978 PA 368, as amended.
Michigan’s water well construction and pump installation code (water well code) contains minimum
specifications for the location and construction of water wells and associated pumping equipment. The
code establishes standards for the materials and methods used to complete water wells, and install
pumps, pressure tanks, piping, valves, and controls. Standards for the plugging of abandoned water
wells, dewatering well construction and abandonment standards, reporting requirements, minimum
qualifications for the registration of water well drilling contractors, drilling machine registration
requirements, and code enforcement provisions are also covered.
The well code booklet can be ordered from:
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
Drinking Water & Municipal Assistance Division
Environmental Health Section
Source Water Unit
P.O. Box 30241
Lansing, Michigan 48909-7741
Phone: 517-284-5413
Fax: 517-241-1328
The well code and statute can also be
downloaded from the DEQ website at:
www.michigan.gov/deqwaterwellconstruction
The Statute and Administrative Ru

 

[Paystar]

They have record high heat and it wasn’t cool to start with, they are building more houses everyday ( which I’m not apposed to like some people) they’re wanting to add more load to the already suffering electric grid with electric cars. They’re nearing the point when they loose to ability to generate hydro power. The logical solution would build a nuclear power plant but their plan is to shut those down along with the coal and natural gas plants. They’ve not reached the point of collapse yet but it’s coming.

My only point is this whole electric future and getting rid of internal combustion is idiotic and is going to be an epic failure.
Disagree if you want, but in 2030 I'll be laughing and saying "I told you so." LOL

So many better and more reliable ways of reducing pollution and still having reliable means of affordable power.
But our governments and their extremist supporters have an agenda.

 

[ultrarunner]

I prefer options and not mandates ..

The part that concerns me most is when existing equipment is banned... even year old equipment illegal to run.

It is this way with older diesel power and brand new brush cutters, blowers etc that run on fuel...

Then add wood burning, new natural gas installs and you see where I'm going.

 

[California]

Somebody opened the southern border. Maybe in a few years it will be closed again.

Nah. The demand for immigrant labor to do jobs Americans won't do, is too strong. 'Dont ask dont tell' will continue to be the reality of how this continues.

The federal standard for an employer to not risk arrest for hiring illegal aliens, is simply that he has to have seen documentation that he 'considered credible'.

We never see prosecution of these employers. That wouldn't be Poiltically Correct in the eyes of either party.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

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[Torvy]

I prefer options and not mandates ..

The part that concerns me most is when existing equipment is banned... even year old equipment illegal to run.

It is this way with older diesel power and brand new brush cutters, blowers etc that run on fuel...

Then add wood burning, new natural gas installs and you see where I'm going.

You could try to argue that those are ex post facto laws and therefore unconstitutional. The current court may actually agree.

 

[5030]

The San Andreas Fault ran right under the site. That's not where you want a nuclear reactor.

Sounds like something Newsom would be all in for to me...

 

[cqaigy2]

Michigan does have water regulations.

Worked pretty well in Flint.

 

[cqaigy2]

Somebody opened the southern border. Maybe in a few years it will be closed again.

Eastern and northern border too.

 

[ArlyA]

Worked pretty well in Flint.

Flint was ran by a state apointed operator who was charged with something related to that mess he made. Don't ask me for details. I'm glad we have water, wells and sewage regulation.

 

[California]

Sounds like something Newsom would be all in for to me...

This was back when Reagan was governor ....

 

[Handloader109]

Can't add much, but I bought a new 25 hp for $13k with fel 6 years ago. There have been adverts for similar size for $16k to 18k this year. I'm going to pay double for an electric so I can save a few thousand in fuel and oil? Hydraulics are still there. I run my little one about 50 hours a year. Have 320 hours on it in just less than 6 years. I've purchased less than 150 gallons of diesel, closer to 120... but at $5 that is $750 in 6 years. $1500 in 12 years. (Actual cost is closer to $250 as of now) not anywhere near $12000.
Hard pass....

 

[California]

The present market for a compact-size Etractor is small. Maybe a riding stable where you want the employee mucking stalls to be inconspicuous while the kids are taking lessons for example.

And some folks, like the type who are buying small vineyards around here that will never be profitable, they just need to radiate 'ambiance' when they come up for the weekend. My neighbor bought a $30k Kubota mostly for towing an IBC Tote watering trailer, after she quizzed me extensively on the 40 year old $3,400 Yanmar I use for that task.

There won't be a market for these among rational farmers before they are cost-competitive.