FORD 3930

[jlbash1]

I'm looking at a Ford 3930 here locally. I've been looking for a 50 hp tractor for a while now and this one seems good. It is 2wd and has turf tires. I'll have to put R1's on it so that's a down side, it doesn't have a remote either which is another down side. On the up side it looks good and clean and only has 700 hours. They are asking $9900 for it, does this sound too bad? from what i've seen it's fair, but I like to hear what other people think.

Thanks in advance

Jarrod

 

[Soundguy]

Clean.. high hp.. low hours.. sounds like a steal to me.

I paid that much for a 33hp Nh 1920 a few years ago.

Ag tires aren't bad.. might even get a few bucks for the turfs if there is rubber on them...

Remote is the only downer.. but then.. that's not a deal killer.. even with dealer kit prices.

Soundguy

 

[jlbash1]

I ended up buying the tractor for $9500. I'm very pleased with the deal. I'm so glad to be done looking for a tractor again. I bet I have a truck load of classifieds laying around the house I've accumulated looking for a good used tractor. I won't have to stop at the gas station on Wednesdays and Thursdays to get the new editions of the Thrifty Nickle and Show 'n' Tell anymore. Well there are some new implements I could use with the bigger tractor.............

Jarrod

 

[EquipmentJunkie]

That sounds like a good price. Congratulations! That 3930 tractor will run & run. You may want to start looking for some earplugs because the Ford three-cylinder diesels can get a bit loud.

 

[jlbash1]

I did some mowing with it on saturday and that is the first thing I noticed, a big difference from the Kubota I have.

I ended up calling the deler because I thought the PTO clutch was shot though. I had the clutch pressed all the way down and engaged the PTO lever. The PTO started right up with the clutch depressed, I got worried. So I drove down the road to the neighbor's place to see if I was doing something stupid before I called the delaer I bought this tractor from. We decided that this wasn't right and I called. So appearantly this is what you call an independant PTO. I've heard of them, but didn't know that they worked like this. So it's working right I guess, I felt a little stupid after he told me that was how these things work. Oh well, we've all got to learn some way. I will admit though that I kind of wish I had more control of how quickly the PTO gets engaged.

All in all though I felt very pleased with the tractor's preformance. It felt very stable compared to my Kubota and it handled well. It was kind of sad disconnecting the mower from the Kubota and hooking it up to the new tractor though. I hate to see the Kubota go, it's been a great tractor for me, hopefully the Ford will be just as dependable. I kept grabbing for the shuttle shift lever on the left side of the steering wheel though, it's going to take a while to get used to this transmission compared to the GST on the Kubota.

Jarrod

 

[EquipmentJunkie]

Regarding the Independent PTO, I never used a 3930 for PTO work. This was new to me. I needed an education on the Independent PTO, as well. I learned something that I think you'll be happy to hear. Here is a quote from the New Holland 3930 brochure:

"The PTO is conveniently located at the operator's left, and can be engaged or disengaged at any time by simply moving a lever.
This PTO is featherable for reduced driveline shocks. When engaging the PTO, slowly move the control lever to the adjustable feathering stop. When the shaft begins to turn, push the lever completely to engage. The PTO engages smoothly, rather than with a sudden jolt."

The way I read it, the PTO is even better than what you had on the Kubota. Let me know what you think about this feature.

 

[jlbash1]

I did notice an adjustment screw on the PTO lever, didn't know what it was for though. I don't have a manual as of yet. It just sets a stop point for the lever, the point at which the PTO starts to engage, then you can feather the PTO in from there. Sounds like it should work well. The only thing that I don't like is the lack of the "oh crap hit the clutch" factor. If you ever need to disengage the PTO quickly it would be harder to reach for the lever under the seat than to simply hit the clutch. It's raining here thanks to Rita, but when it dries up a little I'll play with it some more.

Thanks for the quote out of the brouchure that does set my mind at ease.

Jarrod

 

[Soundguy]

At least for mowing applications.. dual stage clutch VS an independednt PTO MIGHT add another second to spin down time. In either case.. when you stomp the clutch.. or kill the pto lever.. the rotary inertia is still there.. if it is more than the pto brake can handle.. it will still be spinning...

Soundguy

 

[threeman]

I had a 3910 with same PTO. You are correct about it engaging quickly. It doesnt opperate as the new tractors do with slowly engaging. You will enjoy this however when you back your mower into something to thick to drive over or turning around. It will allow you to shift while the PTO is engaged. The 3930 is a great tractor. Very very durable and easy to have repaired when needed.

 

[Soundguy]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You will enjoy this however when you back your mower into something to thick to drive over or turning around. It will allow you to shift while the PTO is engaged )</font>

Don't need independent pto for that... 2-stage 'live' clutch will let you do that.

Soundguy

 

[jlbash1]

I started calling the local New Holland dealers today getting prices on adding the remote hydraulics. I've read several threads on this subject regarding pricing, but I haven't found any remote valve kits as cheap as some say. Locally for 1 remote valve kit it's $520, 2 remotes is $730. I've seen some say that they should be around $250 or so for one. Are my local guys high or are there some online places i should be looking at? Not many people talking about this series of tractor on this forum so it's hard for me to tell what to expect when i call the dealer.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Jarrod

 

[RickB]

Let me know where I can buy the $250 remote kits. Next time you hear that, lean on them to produce an actual source. It won't happen.

 

[Inspector507]

Single remotes for the Class 1 Boomer was $255 (parts only unless added/ordered with a new unit) a year ago. I'd say for your tractor they may be more.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Remote kit price is dependent on what machine they are for. However, the prices seem in line for what they would cost on a TN.

 

[pekabu]

Not an expert on this, but it depends on the machine and the amount. The remote a class 1 tractor can have isn't too bad, but on the TN I believe the first remote is almost double the 2nd and others go for.

Once in a while there is a remote eBay. Fairly rare and never for my machine. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[RickB]

I should have said that I was referring specifically to a remote kit to fit the 3930 under discussion.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I know, I was trying to clear up any confusion for the people who price them for different tractors and think all kits should be/are the same price. Take care.

 

[jlbash1]

I appreciate the input. Sounds like the remote for my tractor may just be expensive. Oh well. It will be a while before I need it anyway. I plan on getting a wheel disc sometime in the next few seasons, but other than that I don't have many plans for the remote.

Jarrod

 

[dgl24087]

Try Sweet Farm Equipment for a remote kit. They're located in Canmer and Munfordville, KY. They recently had kit on ebay for $369 for the 1965-2001 2000 thru 6600 series, may be able to get a quote for the 30 series. E-mail is sweet@scrtc.com, phone is 270-528-3323.

 

[jlbash1]

Thanks for the advice. I have actually called and talked to Ken before I found the 3930. He is a heck of a nice guy, he told me to come on down and if I liked bluegrass to bring an instrument and we'd pick a little. My kind of tractor store.

I'll give him a shout when it's time to buy the remote, or any implement for that matter.

Jarrod