Front end goes out again!!!

[Sawyer Rob]

Normally I would agree with you, but you didn't have to be quite so smug about it.

There's nothing smug about it at all... I told the truth and that's exactly how I feel about it...

I've been around tractors many years, I own quite a few and I learned a few things along the way, on their use.

I see NO reason to abuse one of my tinker toy tractors... IF I'm moving heavy loads of ANYTHING, I'm going to get the right tool for the job, up front.

Keep in mind, "loaders" are add on's for tractors, these tractors were not built to be "loader tractors", that's why they invented REAL front end loaders, skid steers and industrial tractors...

Did you ever hear the saying, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"??

SR

 

[Rustyiron]

The op was tossing loose rocks in his bucket, the bucket is proportionally sized to the smaller tractor, think motorized wheel barrow. It should be up to this task and I don't think it's abuse or a poor decision to use it in this fashion at all. It seems MF shorted their customers with a smaller (lighter) front axle to save a few bucks. Accountants vs. the engineers at MF, and the engineers and now the marketing dept. (and those that purchased one) were the loser's.
He also said the the rear was not "light" and adding rear ballast does not unload the front, it equalizes the back (load). The weight in the bucket will not magically skip over the front axle with more weight on the rear.

Sorry about your situation Phillip.

 

[4570Man]

There's nothing smug about it at all... I told the truth and that's exactly how I feel about it...

I've been around tractors many years, I own quite a few and I learned a few things along the way, on their use.

I see NO reason to abuse one of my tinker toy tractors... IF I'm moving heavy loads of ANYTHING, I'm going to get the right tool for the job, up front.

Keep in mind, "loaders" are add on's for tractors, these tractors were not built to be "loader tractors", that's why they invented REAL front end loaders, skid steers and industrial tractors...

Did you ever hear the saying, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"??

SR

I agree that tractors are a long ways from a real loader, but hauling a bucket full of rock that probably doesn’t weigh any more than a bucket of wet dirt is well within the design. If that’s abuse than what’s normal use? Hauling a bucket of straw or snow?

 

[Phillip w]

Hereis the rest of the story: i had my allis with a koyker 5 loader and 7 ft bucket sitting outside the barn lot. The idea was i could pick up 2 or 3 loads of rocks with the mf and run and dump them on the allis. When the allis bucket got full i could run and dump it in a place where i'm having trouble with a low water crossing. Let the "big tractor" bear the stress of transporting a large payload over the distance of about a quarter mile. I have to say the old allis is rugged, dependable and like the energizer bunny.

 

[Phillip w]

Ps. The mf loader is a 1520 with a 5 ft bucket. It is consisered a .25 yard bucket i think.

 

[vvanders]

There's nothing smug about it at all... I told the truth and that's exactly how I feel about it...

I've been around tractors many years, I own quite a few and I learned a few things along the way, on their use.

I see NO reason to abuse one of my tinker toy tractors... IF I'm moving heavy loads of ANYTHING, I'm going to get the right tool for the job, up front.

Keep in mind, "loaders" are add on's for tractors, these tractors were not built to be "loader tractors", that's why they invented REAL front end loaders, skid steers and industrial tractors...

Did you ever hear the saying, "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"??

SR

You may not have intended it but it certainly came off that way.

If the front end has some known threshold of failure then it should follow that your loader would have some sort of relief/bleed when at a load approaches that capacity + safety margin. That's practically engineering 101. Even more so when you consider no one is going to break out a mobile scale just to tell if they're within weight of their front end loader.

 

[4570Man]

If I had a compact tractor that couldn’t survive the loader I’d sell it in a hurry. There’s thousands of compact tractors in service with only a few broke front ends. Big tractors and industrial equipment aren’t exempt from breaking either.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Almost all tractors built in last 20 yrs were designed with a loader capability. Thus the axle should support the weight, with proper counterbalance per mfr recommendations.

 

[downsizingnow48]

Question for the OP, what does an internet search show? Lots of problems with MF 1520 front axle?

 

[Oldpath05]

How big does a tractor have to be not to be called a compact tractor, 40 50 60 90 200 5000 hp............. My view is if the rear wheels stays on the ground and the FEL can lift the bucket full gold than the front end should not break, if it does than the so called tractor is a POC, it's a sad state of a fare when a tractor cant spin ONE ONE ONE 12 14 16" front tire without falling apart, junk it's all junk, but it's the best junk we got so might as well get a Chinese tractor.