Garage for Power Trac and Shop

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MossRoad said:
Yeah. The cord will burn up before the breaker will trip in the circuit panel. That is the cause of many house fires, with regards to lamps and small space heaters. Where I work, there are several dozen space heaters. Those things will burn up the cord or melt power strips without tripping any breakers.

Anyhow, I don't want to hijack the thread, but since we were discussing wiring a garage and shop, I thought it fit. :rolleyes:

Not a hijack Moss. The NEC is not perfect, but I think for most applicances a short would make the breaker trip before the cord burned up. It's the over load, saying running a cord rated for 6 amps at 20 amps that is the biggest issue. I put a 15 amp breaker on my table saw even though the 20 amp breaker would trip in 6 seconds if I stalled the saw. With the 15 amp it would take about 2 seconds. If I can't clear the stall in 2 seconds, I would just as soon the power was removed. Six seconds seemed like a very long time. So, if you can downsize the breaker so it trips in a reasonable time, you are safer and probably protect the motor a little better. Yes, the main purpose of the NEC is to prevent fires and not protect equipment from damage. I like to do a little better. Sorry for the hijack. (Can you hijack your own thread?)

Oh, our company banned all of the open element electric heaters and replaced them with much lower wattage oil (liquid) filled heaters because of safety issues.
 
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BobRip said:
Oh, our company banned all of the open element electric heaters and replaced them with much lower wattage oil (liquid) filled heaters because of safety issues.

I think the element type heaters (glorified toasters :)) are against fire code in our town in the cubicle settings. Our building department keeps telling folks to get rid of them, but other folks keep brining them in. I once had a white 6 outlet power strip with 4 brown and blackened receps and a space heater still in it. I pointed it out to the person that was using it and they said each time the heater stopped working, they just moved it to the next recep on the strip!!! :eek::eek::eek: They had no concept of FIRE!!! :eek::eek::eek::)
 
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woodlandfarms said:
Fourteen. So, you mind saying how much the kit was?


No. The Morton Building cost about $28,000. 38x30x10 with 4/12 roof, 6x6 posts, 4" concrete floor, 2' eaves and overhangs, insulated with R19 in walls and R38 in ceiling, two insulated OH doors with glass -16x8 & 12x8 with Genie screw drive openers, one 3' door with glass, steel interior walls and ceiling, gutters, and ALL LABOR. I provided a level site and did the electrical work myself.


See it at: Customer Comments for steel buildings, storage buildings, farm storage, suburban, acreage, and much more by Morton Buildings, Inc. !!
 
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FOURTEEN said:
No. The Morton Building cost about $28,000. 38x30x10 with 4/12 roof, 6x6 posts, 4" concrete floor, 2' eaves and overhangs, insulated with R19 in walls and R38 in ceiling, two insulated OH doors with glass -16x8 & 12x8 with Genie screw drive openers, one 3' door with glass, steel interior walls and ceiling, gutters, and ALL LABOR. I provided a level site and did the electrical work myself.


See it at: Customer Comments for steel buildings, storage buildings, farm storage, suburban, acreage, and much more by Morton Buildings, Inc. !!

I wish mine were that low, but the wife wants a brick exterior.
 
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BobRip said:
I wish mine were that low, but the wife wants a brick exterior.


Bricks are nice, but mostly for fancy houses or outhouses! My building is a shop, not even a residential garage. I want it to look the part! A brick shop is like a gold plated truck - it may be pretty, but is it appropriate!??!

That said, Morton will build whatever exterior you want - steel, vinyl, brick, wood, maybe even log!!!! The high quality, strong, economical building remains the same, just the siding changes! Check their website to see some of the beautiful buildings that they have built!!
 
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Fourteen, I have admired your shop since you posted the first pictures, very nice with the lighting and heating system that makes working in it a pleasure I'm sure. Wish I had one--but at that price it's not in my future--wish it was!!
Bill
 
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FOURTEEN said:
Bricks are nice, but mostly for fancy houses or outhouses! My building is a shop, not even a residential garage. I want it to look the part! A brick shop is like a gold plated truck - it may be pretty, but is it appropriate!??!

That said, Morton will build whatever exterior you want - steel, vinyl, brick, wood, maybe even log!!!! The high quality, strong, economical building remains the same, just the siding changes! Check their website to see some of the beautiful buildings that they have built!!

Our house is all brick (well, 95%) and so the wife wants the garage to match. I like brick too, but did not want to pay for it for a garage. It's OK, cause the brick cost is coming out of her inheritance. The garage is only 15 feet from the house so matching is important.
 
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BobRip said:
The garage is only 15 feet from the house.


That's fine. Just remember to buy a big Half Moon for the OH door!!!!


PS: Sorry, Bob! I just couldn't resist! May be the early hour and the nearly full moon!!!!
 
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Well I signed the contract for the garage. I only plan to do the electrical work. Of course, the drought has ended and it has rained every other day. Oh well, it will be done when it is done.
 

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