Garage for Power Trac and Shop

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BobRip said:
Well I signed the contract for the garage.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!

Eddie
 
   / Garage for Power Trac and Shop #62  
Eddie -

Be sure to do #10 first; the rest will still be there later. :)

Regards,
Mark H.
 
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#63  
Again thanks for the many comments and suggestions.
I was thinking that rust forming on my equipment (milling machine, table saw, drill press, etc.) might be an issue. What works best to prevent this. Will a fire in the wood stove every two or three days be enough? Would a spray coating on the equipment work, if so what should I use? Other suggestions?
 
   / Garage for Power Trac and Shop #64  
BobRip said:
Again thanks for the many comments and suggestions.
I was thinking that rust forming on my equipment (milling machine, table saw, drill press, etc.) might be an issue. What works best to prevent this. Will a fire in the wood stove every two or three days be enough? Would a spray coating on the equipment work, if so what should I use? Other suggestions?

Bob,

A dehumidifier work best to control moisture.
 
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J_J said:
Bob,

A dehumidifier work best to control moisture.
OK, no issue there. Is it the best way to prevent rust? Will it freeze in the winter? Is it the most economical to operate? It does sound convenient. It also adds a little heat and would shut off when not needed.

Edit: I found a place called "The Rust Store". I will give them a call on Wednesday and see what they recommend. Has anyone dealt with them?
 
   / Garage for Power Trac and Shop #66  
BobRip said:
Again thanks for the many comments and suggestions.
I was thinking that rust forming on my equipment (milling machine, table saw, drill press, etc.) might be an issue. What works best to prevent this. Will a fire in the wood stove every two or three days be enough? Would a spray coating on the equipment work, if so what should I use? Other suggestions?
I was told to keep the milling machine and metal lathe sprayed down with a coat of oil. car wax on my table saw jointer and other woodworking tools seem to work just fine. My tools are in a cinder block building and I don't have much condensation problems. I have a metal building and in it I do have condensation problems even though it is insulated. I have heard people say that their metal buildings don't sweat but I am skeptical about that. I believe that the spray on insulation would help if not stop that but like one said it is expensive. One thing about waxing your wood working tools the material slides a lot easier.
 
   / Garage for Power Trac and Shop #67  
I use boeshield t-9 on my tablesaw, bandsaw, jointer, etc.

I don't have a milling machine (yet), but I am thinking that you are better off wiping it off and spraying it with oil (as others have mentoned) after use.
 
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BobRip said:
I was thinking that rust forming on my equipment (milling machine, table saw, drill press, etc.) might be an issue. What works best to prevent this?


All you need to do is keep the equipment inside the building constantly a little warmer than outside so condensation won't form. An electric heater set for a little warmer than outside will do the trick.
In an unheated, uninsulated building the equipment will cool down overnight. Then when the air inside the building warms up during the day, sweat, followed by rust, will appear on the equipment because the air warms faster than the equipment.

PS: In my heated Morton Building none of my plastic, rubber, or aluminum tools have shown any rust!
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FOURTEEN said:
All you need to do is keep the equipment inside the building constantly a little warmer than outside so condensation won't form. An electric heater set for a little warmer than outside will do the trick.
In an unheated, uninsulated building the equipment will cool down overnight. Then when the air inside the building warms up during the day, sweat, followed by rust, will appear on the equipment because the air warms faster than the equipment.

PS: In my heated Morton Building none of my plastic, rubber, or aluminum tools have shown any rust!
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Glad to hear your tools are doing well although it would be intersting to see plastic tools rust.

My garage will be insulated. Will that be enough, or do I need to add heat also? I suspect that answer is "it depends". Sounds like the dehumidifier would do well again. It adds a little heat and takes out the moisture.
 
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""although it would be intersting to see plastic tools rust.""

As the rooster says in the cartoons: "That was a joke , Son!!"


""My garage will be insulated. Will that be enough, or do I need to add heat also?""

The insulation will moderate the temp changes, but any time that the tools are cooler than the air, condensation may form. For example, in the Spring when the nights are chilly, the shop interior cools down, in the late morning you open the OH door, and in rushes the warm moist Spring air. If your tools are below the dew point of that warm moist air, you get condensation. Adding a little heat overnight should keep your tools above the dew point.


""Sounds like the dehumidifier would do well again.""

I think that the small electric heater would be a lot cheaper and more effective. Also no water to empty.
In the above scenerio, when you open that OH door on that Spring morning, out will rush your cool dry air, and in will rush the warm moist air ready to deposit its moisture on your cool tools! This process will continue until the tools warm to above the dew point of the outside, now inside, air. Meanwhile rust may be forming! If you had kept the tools warmer than the dew point of the outside air, no condensation would form. (The tools just have to be warmer than the dew point temperature, not warmer than the ambient temperature!!) The larger the tool or equipment is, the longer it will take for the outside air to warm it, and the moisture will have a longer opportunity to condense on it. The dehumidifier would work ok if you kept the shop always closed up tight!

Also, having the shop just a few degrees warmer will make it so much more pleasant to work in!


""It adds a little heat and takes out the moisture.""

Actually it cools the air, then reheats it. Howstuffworks "How does a dehumidifier work?"

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