gc1720 wont start, whistle noise and lots of balck smoke.

[HarryVanderpool]

I WOULD like to hear the end of the story if there is one.
Did you realize that you had filled with gas instead of diesel?

 

[Ooklaa]

I WOULD like to hear the end of the story if there is one.
Did you realize that you had filled with gas instead of diesel?

Come on buddy lets not go that route. If i happen to make a mistake i have no problem spitting it out. Im the only person that fills this tractor up.

 

[Egon]

It might have been the fuel flow back valve to the tank did not open properly??

 

[Phillip w]

Come on buddy lets not go that route. If i happen to make a mistake i have no problem spitting it out. Im the only person that fills this tractor up.

I do believe if you put gasoline in a diesel it would be disastrous. You can lock one up or blow it up just trying to start one with either in cold weather. Gasoline is a lot more volatile than diesel. I put diesel in a car years ago and that was a mess. Did not run right, engine missed, and tried to run hot. I enfed up draining the tank and putting in fresh gas. With the volatility of gasoline, I think if you put it in a diesel engine you would not have much of an engine. Cut this guy some slack.

 

[rider7767]

I would remove the air filter housing first and then try starting it. A mouse or debris in the filter housing would cause those symptoms. Over filled oil can cause hinky stuff as well.

 

[cdaigle430]

The black smoke is the result of the engine being bogged down by what ever is causing the noise.
I would loosen the fan belt completely and start the engine for just a few seconds. If the noise disappears, then you KNOW that it is either the alt or water pump etc.
If the noise is still there it could be that the starter is not trowing out or there is a blockage in the hydraulic system.
Don't run the engine with the belt loose for more than several seconds.

I think you nailed it.

 

[mdw8815]

I didn't see a final word on this so I thought I'd share my findings for the next guy. I had the exact same issue. Ran fine yesterday, smokes and screams and won't idle today. It was a bit disturbing, but after poking around I found a fresh mouse in the air filter canister. Took him out, problem gone. You can recreate the OPs symptoms by partially covering the inlet hose with your hand.

 

[thclimer]

I didn't see a final word on this so I thought I'd share my findings for the next guy. I had the exact same issue. Ran fine yesterday, smokes and screams and won't idle today. It was a bit disturbing, but after poking around I found a fresh mouse in the air filter canister. Took him out, problem gone. You can recreate the OPs symptoms be partially covering the inlet hose with your hand.

Welcome to the Forum.

Thanks for letting us know and glad it was a easy fix for you!

 

[shovelmike]

Thanks MDW 8815, for the info. It does get frustrating when the OP doesn't give a conclusion.

 

[WranglerX]

About the mouse nest.... Had same issue, little bast#rd chewed a lot of foam stuff off various places in engine compartment and filled air cleaner canister and inlet hose... Did not have any running issues but when I was just checking things I found nest.... Solution was to put a piece of 1/4 inch mesh screen over air inlet opening... Been having a lot of trouble with mice and rats this year... Wonder why they find engine compartments so inviting... Found some critters food stash of acorn in Jeep air cleaner.... Same thing here, put screen over intake...And then then was the rat nest under hood of wife's Honda... Thankfully not wires chewed like some people have suffered from... A solution of peppermint oil and water sprayed around engine compartment ever few weeks seem to keep them at bay (home made version of very expensive Rodent Sheriff)

About the start up squeal... Sound like fan belt slipping .... And just FYI a locked up alternator can stop engine from actual starting as my nephew found out with his Toyota. more to story but not relevant...

Dale