GC2300 Issues
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Well, I thank you Irving. I'm pretty well familiar with engines, but not diesels, and not really tractors. But basics, I can do.
I was out there today trying to check to see if these glow plugs were getting juice and boy howdy did I find a mess! The wiring harness going out to the headlights, the solenoid, three grounds to the block, one of which is a larger unwrapped ground going under the dash & grounded, a sensor on the block, and a sensor on the water temp (looks like) has had a large ground wire fried all the way down inside the wrap. I found the other end of it attached to the frame under the dash (same side of the tractor) along with the previously mentioned ground it was black with a yellow collar. .
The large grounded wire that fried is inside the wire wrap along with other wires and melted all the way down to the oil filter area. I can not find where it might have connected to anything, I can稚 find any plugs missing a connection etc. A lot of the wires are melted together as I take off more and more of the black wrap. I had my wiring schematic out there but that thing mostly confuses me. If you can understand this gibberish Irving, maybe you can help me out here. I am probably going to go pick up the wiring and re-wire all of this crap to insure that no wires are exposed and touching etc. Then I might get to checking the plugs I took some snapshots on my phone, but not sure how to get them here.
I only got so far as the wires go under the frame and floor area and then apparently are connected to another wiring mess because I can稚 just pull this bunch up to work/remove them. I really do not want to take the floor out. I have some areas of various wires that have been exposed etc. so they are definitely going to need replaced. And I don't know that I want to order a whole new wiring harness from MF, they are pricey enough and 46 miles away.
Again, thanks much for the help and if anyone else is an expert or not, please feel free to jump in.
PJ
I was out there today trying to check to see if these glow plugs were getting juice and boy howdy did I find a mess! The wiring harness going out to the headlights, the solenoid, three grounds to the block, one of which is a larger unwrapped ground going under the dash & grounded, a sensor on the block, and a sensor on the water temp (looks like) has had a large ground wire fried all the way down inside the wrap. I found the other end of it attached to the frame under the dash (same side of the tractor) along with the previously mentioned ground it was black with a yellow collar. .
The large grounded wire that fried is inside the wire wrap along with other wires and melted all the way down to the oil filter area. I can not find where it might have connected to anything, I can稚 find any plugs missing a connection etc. A lot of the wires are melted together as I take off more and more of the black wrap. I had my wiring schematic out there but that thing mostly confuses me. If you can understand this gibberish Irving, maybe you can help me out here. I am probably going to go pick up the wiring and re-wire all of this crap to insure that no wires are exposed and touching etc. Then I might get to checking the plugs I took some snapshots on my phone, but not sure how to get them here.
I only got so far as the wires go under the frame and floor area and then apparently are connected to another wiring mess because I can稚 just pull this bunch up to work/remove them. I really do not want to take the floor out. I have some areas of various wires that have been exposed etc. so they are definitely going to need replaced. And I don't know that I want to order a whole new wiring harness from MF, they are pricey enough and 46 miles away.
Again, thanks much for the help and if anyone else is an expert or not, please feel free to jump in.
PJ
It was a while ago, I don't remember anything other than:
When you energize the glow plugs, the metal strip, (bus bar), that runs between them has +12 Volts dc on it. If you get a 12 volt light, ground one end, and hook the other to the bus bar, you have a glow plug light.
Ideally, you use an instrument lamp that has the right socket to lock in one of the unused holes in the dash. You can get these where they sell aftermarket gauges. Or, even just buy a cheap gauge that comes with one, if they don't sell them separately.
There are also lots of bright led's now you could use. Keep in mind, unlike a light bulb, they do have polarities you need to observe.
If you cannot find a bulb that has the socket to fit securely in one of the empty holes in the dash, use aluminum foil tape to hold the lamp in the hole from the underside. You won't know the difference.
The lamp is not on long enough to get particularly hot, so there is not much need to worry about how well you connect it to the dash.
Hello All,
I have a GC 2300 a 2005 I think, I have had a few problems and thought I was just asking too much for the little girl but all we do is mow the yard 2 acers and plow the driveway 675 feet and a bit of dirt from time to time.
But we have had to replace both loader cylinders, starter, seat mounting frame, rewelded the muffler to the flange and the bracker it is attached to.
I am happy to see others are having simular problems and it is not just me beating it up. And come to think of it there is some slack in the steering wheel.
has anyone heard of recalls and repairs by massey on any of these items.
I have a GC 2300 a 2005 I think, I have had a few problems and thought I was just asking too much for the little girl but all we do is mow the yard 2 acers and plow the driveway 675 feet and a bit of dirt from time to time.
But we have had to replace both loader cylinders, starter, seat mounting frame, rewelded the muffler to the flange and the bracker it is attached to.
I am happy to see others are having simular problems and it is not just me beating it up. And come to think of it there is some slack in the steering wheel.
has anyone heard of recalls and repairs by massey on any of these items.
rjmack
Platinum Member
if you power down on your bucket enough to lift the front wheels off the ground, you can check for slop at the tie rod ends, i think they call them ball joints, i have had one replaced on warranty at 235 hrs and the other has some play.
boom and curl cylinders are also in need of seal kits.
i doubt that the parts for either amount to much cost.
Wow-- sounds like some folks have had a lot of problems with their GCs... I've only had a couple of hydraulic hoses pop and the ground strap break. It may be that by the time mine was made (2007) they took care of a lot of stuff.
pl1338-- did you ever get yours straightened out? Sounds like you had a real mess; sorry, I must have missed this post for a time.
When my ground strap broke, running the starter motor (until the whole thing quit) caused the starter current to find any ground it could; I know it stressed a few wires, but fortunately nothing burned or melted. Think this may have happened to you?
pl1338-- did you ever get yours straightened out? Sounds like you had a real mess; sorry, I must have missed this post for a time.
When my ground strap broke, running the starter motor (until the whole thing quit) caused the starter current to find any ground it could; I know it stressed a few wires, but fortunately nothing burned or melted. Think this may have happened to you?
I know they had made a few changes when the new model was made, they moved the parking brake lever so it was not in front of the foot peddle,amber warning lights to inside the ROPES (i keep knocking mine off when I mow close to the trees) I hope they changed the muffler attachment point.
bakerg
Elite Member
My 2010 GC2400 had the lights on the outside of the ROP and I moved them inside because of the same tree problems.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/massey-ferguson-owning-operating/202732-moving-marker-lights.html