Got a clunker?

[txdon]

Per the late news (11:00 PM 07/30) the offer is over as of midnight. Way more people signed up than expected and the budget pantry is empty.Harry K

It's alive, it's alive!

CNN quote 7/31 :"The U.S. House of Representatives voted Friday to spend an additional $2 billion on the program. The Senate vote has not been scheduled."

 

[archerm3]

It's alive, it's alive!

CNN quote 7/31 :"The U.S. House of Representatives voted Friday to spend an additional $2 billion on the program. The Senate vote has not been scheduled."

Oh jesus.
Guess you have to take the bad with the good. As always.

This medicine tastes bad.

Just wanted to say that part of the reason car makers are losing money is because they can't make cars affordable anymore to the average joe. Now this program is just making the problem worse: less used cars on the market for normal joes to afford.

 

[westcliffe01]

So lets see: 16 million vehicles/yr sold in the past with an average age of 10 years = over 160 million vehicles in the pool.

Along comes the cars program and offeres an incentive of $4000/vehicle scrapped. So the first billion equates to 250 000 vehicles. If the government adds the additional 2 billion it goes up to 750 000 vehicles. Hmmmm 3/4 of a million vs 160 million. How does that create untold hardship for people looking for a used vehicle ? Its a change of not even 0.5%.

How many people really want a 10 year old vehicle anyway ? Maybe if one lives in California or Arizona / New Mexico the body might still be in reasonable shape, but on the south or east coast or in the midwest or farther north the bodies are typically rusted out before 10 years is up.

Now this program is just making the problem worse: less used cars on the market for normal joes to afford.

 

[wjoerob]

WARNING! ALERT! Has anyone seen the disclaimer on the "Cash for Clunkers" website. Do NOT log onto cars.gov unless you are sure you agree to the Terms and Conditions. To make a long story short, you are agreeing that your computer now becomes a part of the Federal government computer system, and it now belongs to them! They can upload or download or monitor anything they want to, because you have agreed to it. This is true even if you only logged on to check out what mileage your car is suppose to get. Kim Komando agreed on her national radio show that she had never seen anything this outrageous. Why would the Feds try to do this through such a ridiculous program?

 

[Double Orange]

WARNING! ALERT! Has anyone seen the disclaimer on the "Cash for Clunkers" website. Do NOT log onto cars.gov unless you are sure you agree to the Terms and Conditions. To make a long story short, you are agreeing that your computer now becomes a part of the Federal government computer system, and it now belongs to them! They can upload or download or monitor anything they want to, because you have agreed to it. This is true even if you only logged on to check out what mileage your car is suppose to get. Kim Komando agreed on her national radio show that she had never seen anything this outrageous. Why would the Feds try to do this through such a ridiculous program?

This is just plain Scary !

 

[/pine]

Do NOT log onto cars.gov unless you are sure you agree to the Terms and Conditions.

got a link to this TOS?

CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Home - Formerly Referred to as “Cash for Clunkers”

I don't see any specific "TOS" on the site...everything links back to "dot.gov" pages that are not new.

if you're that paranoid check out the site with a browser that has cookies disabled....

 

[Duffster]

YouTube - Glenn Beck: Cars.gov allows government to takeover your computer

 

[/pine]

paranoia strikes again!
Consider the source...!

disable cookies and make sure you have an uncompromised quality firewall and NOBODY can glean ANY information off your computer through your internet connection...period

I again just visited the site "cars.gov" and could find nothing of the like...

 

[two_bit_score]

Anyone looking to cash in on the latest government give away? I kept my old 1991 F150 when I bought a newer used truck back in May. They weren't going to give me anything for it, and I figured I'd be able to get a few bucks for it or donate it and take the deduction. Now I'm wondering if I can cash it in using the clunker deduction. I looked up the EPA estimated mileage for a 2W six with 5 spd manual, and it was 15 city and 19 highway, which wouldn't qualify because the combined for a light truck is supposed to be 16 or less. However, there was a link to the newer estimates and that was 16 combined. So, looks like it's right on the line. We really could use a good commuter car because I drive my newer truck when DW isn't working, and I'd prefer to just use the truck as a truck and save gas. If my truck qualifies, I'd get a $4500 deduction or credit or whatever it is they are going to do.

This reminds me of how I feel when folks tell me they got their 20 year old roof replaced free because of hail damage. I'm happy for them....I guess....though it bugs me that insurance rates are high partly because of such things. I really would buy a car that gets much better mileage than my old truck, but in fact I'm not driving the old truck. Of course, if I sell it, someone will be driving it, and the idea is to take the gas-guzzlers off the road, so.... Still, we all end up paying for these deals, just like we all end up paying when someone wins the insurance lottery.

Chuck

Good points, Chuck. I know how you feel. I am 'happy' for you if you get the rebate but I also feel that the rest of the taxpayers (US) are 'financing' this for generations to come.

 

[Duffster]

paranoia strikes again!
Consider the source...!

disable cookies and make sure you have an uncompromised quality firewall and NOBODY can glean ANY information off your computer through your internet connection...period

I again just visited the site "cars.gov" and could find nothing of the like...

Whats wrong with the source?