Grappling fun - A Picture Thread....

[4570Man]

A little off subject but I have to say I like those beefy front tires on the Mahindras. Wish my Kubota was setup more that way especially for grappling work. gg

I have noticed that. The Mahindras look pretty nice.

 

[Snowback]

I'm curious if it is still brand new or were those photos taken some time ago? The third function valve looks like a clean setup.

Yes - the tractor just came into the fold in late December and was at J5 while I figured out grapple. That was ordered New Year's Eve with 3rd function from EA. Only took a few days for it to get here and just picked up the final package yesterday.

If you look close at the 3rd function picture, you can see my favorite tractor attachment on the steering wheel that I moved over from the outgoing Max 25. (Grapple comes in a close second...) I wonder why hydraulic tractors don't come standard with a steering spinner? It's a game changer when doing loader and grapple work.

 

[IslandTractor]

A little off subject but I have to say I like those beefy front tires on the Mahindras. Wish my Kubota was setup more that way especially for grappling work. gg

Kubota B and L tractors are optimized for lighter weight to improve finish mowing. That means lighter front axles which in turn means lower rated FEL and therefore bigger front tires are not necessary.

Check out similar HP CUTs from Mahindra and Kioti who do not try to build lighter weight tractors. For example Kubota L3940 weighs about 500lbs less than Kioti DK40se or Mahindra 4540. You see the same thing with MX style which is a smallish utility style which still weighs a few hundred pounds less than equivalent Kioti DK.

I don't know if it is an absolute rule but generally tractors in same HP range that have higher loader lift capacities will have bigger front axles and bigger front tires.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Kubota B and L tractors are optimized for lighter weight to improve finish mowing. That means lighter front axles which in turn means lower rated FEL and therefore bigger front tires are not necessary.

Check out similar HP CUTs from Mahindra and Kioti who do not try to build lighter weight tractors. For example Kubota L3940 weighs about 500lbs less than Kioti DK40se or Mahindra 4540. You see the same thing with MX style which is a smallish utility style which still weighs a few hundred pounds less than equivalent Kioti DK.

I don't know if it is an absolute rule but generally tractors in same HP range that have higher loader lift capacities will have bigger front axles and bigger front tires.

I was curious on the tires that the 38 hp Mahindra had - got a surprise

38 hp 2538 front 7-16 Rear 11.2-24
30 hp L3010 front 7.2-16 Rear 12.4-24 - my tractor

PLUS I have 2 more inches ground clearance - Don't know why those front tires look so big ??

Like you say the Mahindra is 400 lbs heavier and the loader is stronger but it is also 25% more hp than my L3010 so you would expect that.

Hope the rain stops - I would rather be out on the tractor.

gg

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Kubota B and L tractors are optimized for lighter weight to improve finish mowing. That means lighter front axles which in turn means lower rated FEL and therefore bigger front tires are not necessary.

Check out similar HP CUTs from Mahindra and Kioti who do not try to build lighter weight tractors. For example Kubota L3940 weighs about 500lbs less than Kioti DK40se or Mahindra 4540. You see the same thing with MX style which is a smallish utility style which still weighs a few hundred pounds less than equivalent Kioti DK.

I don't know if it is an absolute rule but generally tractors in same HP range that have higher loader lift capacities will have bigger front axles and bigger front tires.

Ya I was curious too. My MX4800 has 12-16.5 R4s and a Kioti NX5010 or DK50SE has smaller 10-16.5s

 

[IslandTractor]

Ya I was curious too. My MX4800 has 12-16.5 R4s and a Kioti NX5010 or DK50SE has smaller 10-16.5s

I guess the "utility" designation on the MX changes things a bit. Kioti doesn't have a direct comparator as the DK and NX are more like the Grand L lineup from the other orange company.

 

[94BULLITT]

Ya I was curious too. My MX4800 has 12-16.5 R4s and a Kioti NX5010 or DK50SE has smaller 10-16.5s

My 4240 has 10-16.5 too.

 

[Xfaxman]

My big beefy front tires are the same size as my puny little rear tires, 14" wide on 17.5" wheels.

The 44" wide grapple:

A heavy load on the front tires:

Compressing the pile:

 

[IslandTractor]

My beefy front tires are the same size as my beefy rear tires, 14" wide on 17.5" wheels.

I know that farm tractors originally had narrow front wheels to deal with row crops. I don't understand why modern 4wd CUTs, which not typically used that way, are not available with much larger front tires/wheels. Better traction, less damage to ground etc.

 

[Snowback]

I was curious on the tires that the 38 hp Mahindra had - got a surprise

38 hp 2538 front 7-16 Rear 11.2-24
30 hp L3010 front 7.2-16 Rear 12.4-24 - my tractor

- Don't know why those front tires look so big ??

I think it's because they are indeed bigger if I'm not mistaken. Those 7-16s you noted are the size of the skinnier Ag tires that are available on the 2538. For the amount of loader and grapple work that I'll be doing I opted for the wider and slightly taller R4s which are 10-16.5s. The rear R4s are 43x16-20 and are a good size in my mind for a CUT under 40 HP. The tires were definitely a selling point for me, both front and rear. (I wonder why the size/numbering conventions are different from time to time? Some tires have width and rim size while others have all three parameters including diameter.)

Here is a side by side of the two types of tires on a 2538. Ag first and then the R4s. I did not see the Ags in person, but these images are good representations. Both fronts and rears are markedly wider. Not as good as R1s for mudbogging with a plow, but I hope to avoid that kind of work if possible. Now if you wanted to more easily grub out roots with your grapple, then having the R1s and working in a little mud might be fun!