Guys like this are what gives diesel a bad name

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CAn you copy and past the text of the article?

All these darn news sites anymore that everyone links, I cant read half of them because they always want to to subscribe or pay
Here's a .pdf file of the article.
 

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   / Guys like this are what gives diesel a bad name #93  
As a frequent bike rider, I'm always disturbed by the bike hate out there. I stay on relatively lightly used roads and try to be very aware of the conditions and most drivers are considerate. However, I have had people yell at me for not riding on the shoulder when the shoulder is narrow rock and brush. We have had a couple of very tragic accidents in the area, totally the drivers fault and there has been a push for more bike awareness. I have noticed that fewer people pass me with only inches to spare now. Of course, they don't slow down, they just run oncoming traffic off the road now. I guess adding 15 seconds to the trip just isn't acceptable.
 
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^^^^
Everybody thinks they’re the most important person on the road. I used to be a lot like that myself but now I don’t see the point
 
   / Guys like this are what gives diesel a bad name #95  
In Kindergarten I learned personal responsibility. That means if you use something you contribute something.
Here in Washington State bicycle riders receive everything for free. We build trails and pave them for bicycles out of the state budget. We paint bicycle lane designators out of fees from vehicle registrations and gasoline taxes. We pave the road surfaces from fees derived from motor vehicles registrations and gasoline taxes. We provide safe places on sidewalks to secure bicycles out of tax money.
In Washington State I will give you your lane plus a large dose of safety and I ask nothing of a bicyclist in return but to obey the laws and stop at stop signs, etc. Do not pass on the right when traffic is stopped. You know, the laws, all of them not just the ones you want.
Now, get on your bikes here in Washington and enjoy what we vehicle owners and users have provided for you for free.
I live in Washington. I ride a bicycle. I prefer to ride on bike paths as it is much safer. These particular paths were built with private funding. I pay probably as much tax as you do. However, I am not so "me first" to think that my taxes should only be spent only on the exact things that I personally use. I don't play in children's play parks, but I don't think it is realistic or logical to come up with a tax system where only the end users are taxed to pay for the play parks. I'm sorry, but I really don't understand the logic behind what you are saying.
 
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Like many here I have seen both sides of this. I have biked some for fun but am not at all hardcore. I do have friends at work that bike quite seriously and are in great shape from it. I have seen "the peloton" that is obstructing traffic at times, and I have heard from my biking friends of the jerks that try to make life miserable for normal bikers just because they are bikers, even though they are following the laws. And I have seen the bikers that don't stop for stop signs so they don't lose momentum and the drivers who won't let them go when it is their turn since they are just bikes. If you are around long enough you will see it all...and I ain't that old...

It still comes down to the same basic thing: respect. Have some respect for others and all this goes away.
 
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It still comes down to the same basic thing: respect. Have some respect for others

Agreed. 👍
 
   / Guys like this are what gives diesel a bad name #98  
Bikes and automobiles on the same piece of real estate will always be problematic, same as automobiles and trains.
This woman was on the shoulder but the dirtbag driving the car apparently dozed off, hit her, flung her into a ditch and left her to be found nine hours later.
 
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As a frequent bike rider, I'm always disturbed by the bike hate out there. I stay on relatively lightly used roads and try to be very aware of the conditions and most drivers are considerate. However, I have had people yell at me for not riding on the shoulder when the shoulder is narrow rock and brush. We have had a couple of very tragic accidents in the area, totally the drivers fault and there has been a push for more bike awareness. I have noticed that fewer people pass me with only inches to spare now. Of course, they don't slow down, they just run oncoming traffic off the road now. I guess adding 15 seconds to the trip just isn't acceptable.

This is the exact place in the PNW you’ll meet a log truck or a lowboy we’ve had a few close calls with roadies and honestly you shouldn’t be on the road you’re going to get hurt or worse yet hurt someone else.
 
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Some of us ride on winding roads in forested areas and some ride in wide open spaces. On my road a 'pack' is often a family using the whole road when no cars are visible for 1/2 mi or so in either direction. If I ride elsewhere with my Sister's club a 'pack' is several riders in single file, perhaps with another group ahead or behind them. Riding up beside someone gets looks and waves to stay in line. We're not all plowing the same fields or riding the same roads.

btw, Rearview mirror clipped to my hat brim works well. When I spot a car going my direction I stop on the shoulder turn to face it and do my best to make eye contact, ... often with someone staring at their phone. Kinda messes with your momentum when warming up for a workout.
 

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