Hat Etiquette

   / Hat Etiquette #41  
Well said Brian IMO . Thats about how I feel about mine. Though mine average $200-$300 dollars (less X'S inside) :D
Btw : Some of you's know its ok to leave hat on at "Cowboy Church".

Boone

DIL took my pic this morning excuse my mug.Yes I know I'am not as pretty(nor do I want 2-B) as some of you's whippersnappers ! :D

Expensive hats worry me, like buying RayBan sunglasses or expensive watches. I'll never lose or forget a cheap one.

Nice pic, Boone, I sent you a PM asking about where to get moustache dye;).. my beard's getting grayer by the day hanging out with you guys.

Sean
 
   / Hat Etiquette #42  
It seems to me that proper manners are not taught to, or demonstrated for, our children as much anymore these days, whether hat etiquette or most anything else. Too much "let them be their own person" sort of new age mentality of younger parents.

Having manners to me has always been about showing common courtesy to your fellow man, but it seems the younger generations have a lower regard for courtesy. In my opinion, our society gets a little more "crude" acting all the time - what was unacceptable behavior yesterday is overlooked today, and is perfectly acceptable tomorrow. Just look at the accepted language used these days. Wonder how long before people think nothing of someone not wearing a shirt to the table in a restaurant?? Or using foul language in the presence of a lady??

Coming back to hats, whenever finishing a round of golf, my generation will always remove their hat to shake hands. I play on a couple of leagues, and if playing a team of a younger generation, they never remove their hat to shake hands at the end of the round. It just seems so disrespecting, but I'm sure it was just never taught, or if it was they just don't see any need to show that courtesy anymore these days.

I really hate watching our society becoming more crude as time goes by. I wish more folks still desired to hold themselves and their children to a higher standard of social interaction.

I guess I'm just a bit too old-fashioned...
 
   / Hat Etiquette #43  
Expensive hats worry me, like buying RayBan sunglasses or expensive watches. I'll never lose or forget a cheap one.
Nice pic, Boone, I sent you a PM asking about where to get moustache dye;).. my beard's getting grayer by the day hanging out with you guys.
Sean

Sean have never dyed mine yet , remember just a couple years ago I belonged to the TBN YoungGuns . ;)
Some older gents I know tell me they use "Just 4 Men" though . :confused:

Boone
 
   / Hat Etiquette #44  
I wear a baseball cap almost all the time. Usually with John Deere or Baltimore Ravens logo on it. Or maybe a farm store, or hunting supply. I follow most of these basic hat rules. Take it off when meeting someone formally, when eating at any table inside, during the national anthem, prayers, or pledge of allegiance. I also take it off whenever I enter a building (except for barns, farm/hunting stores, or very big stores) and decide, once inside, if it's appropriate to put it back on or not. Usually when it's just me and a bunch of friends I will leave it on when walking into the house or anything like that, because we are all fairly young and none of us really find disrespect when we all know it's okay to eachother. When I get to a customers house, I always take it off my first time in, but if going back and forth to the truck with tools and the like, it will most likely stay on even when inside. I do know there are exceptions to most of these rules, and I don't find disrespect in any of them if someone else keeps it on, but I know some people do and that's why I take mine off. The one time I will never excuse leaving a hat on, is when the national anthem, prayer, or pledge is being said. I will ask you to remove it.

Another thing, I wear jeans to anything. I know I can look nice with a collared shirt and jeans. I also took a liking to Carhartt Dungarees and some camo pants.

One more thing, the hat backwards. I wear it backwards sometimes, depending on the hat and the rest of what I'm wearing, including what I'm doing. I don't see anything wrong with that, as long as it's an okay time for it. I wear it backwards all the time when doing farm work or hanging out with friends, but I would not wear it that way to a job interview, for example, unless I took it off during the meeting.


Kyle
 
   / Hat Etiquette #45  
I wear a hat all the time it seems. I dont sit at the table with a hat on. I will eat with it on at the local farmer resturant as everyone else does. I dont where one to church or a funeral. I guess it depends on the situation. If my wife and I are out for the evening I don't wear it. If I am at Mcdonalds I don't worry about leaving it on. I did have an issue with my son at our Christmas dinner when he came to the table with a hat on.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #46  
Coming back to hats, whenever finishing a round of golf, my generation will always remove their hat to shake hands. I play on a couple of leagues, and if playing a team of a younger generation, they never remove their hat to shake hands at the end of the round. It just seems so disrespecting, but I'm sure it was just never taught, or if it was they just don't see any need to show that courtesy anymore these days.

I'm sure 1000 years ago old-timers were saying the same thing about the younger generation...
Remember, we also walked 20 miles to school, uphill both ways thru a bizzard, but we did it because we wanted an education. ;)

As far as etiquette goes, sometimes it developed for a reason (ie-consideration of others), other times not. What exactly is the reason for hat removal at various times anyway? Much of it seems to be an odd custom, but then again I've never been a hat wearer.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #47  
Churches, homes, restaurants and such are usually automatic hats off even without thinking about it.

Unless you are Jewish, when being uncovered is an offense against God. That's the reason for the yarmulke. Likewise, you take your shoes off when entering a mosque.

Religions can be quirky.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #48  
When I wear a hat I bump my head a lot. The brim-visor blocks over head vision and BOINK. My wife thinks I hit my head too many times. She's right as usual:ashamed:
 
   / Hat Etiquette #49  
I'm retired AF.
Hats on when outside unless on the flight line or too windy to stay on your head. (If it's that windy, you're probably wearing a knitted cap or a hood instead; which count as cover.)
Hats off when indoors except when carrying arms (doesn't have to be a firearm, a sword counts; but a Bowie knife doesn't.)
Tipping the hat socially is an equivalent to rendering a salute. Passing women on a sidewalk and tipping the hat is being pretentious. Tipping a hat or removing it entirely when introduced outdoors isn't quite so pretentious, but is uncommon.
Tipping the hat is not required when wearing a diving or space suit.
 
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#52  
As far as etiquette goes, sometimes it developed for a reason (ie-consideration of others), other times not. What exactly is the reason for hat removal at various times anyway? Much of it seems to be an odd custom, but then again I've never been a hat wearer.

Respect!
 
   / Hat Etiquette #53  

Umhm....


(with) hat in hand
Fig. with humility. (Fig. on the image of someone standing, respectfully, in front of a powerful person, asking for a favor.) She stormed off but came back with hat in hand when she ran out of money. We had to go hat in hand to the committee to get a grant for our proposal.
See also: hand, hat
McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. ゥ 2002 by The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
hat in hand also cap in hand
with an attitude of respect for someone powerful The Secretary of Defense must go to Congress, hat in hand, to get approval to close military bases.
Usage notes: said about someone who is hoping to get something they want
Etymology: based on the custom of men removing their hats to show respect, and on the idea that people beg (ask for money) by holding out a hat
See also: hand, hat

Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms Copyright ゥ Cambridge University Press


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   / Hat Etiquette #54  
Generally, the only times I wear a hat is when it is sunny (baseball cap) or cold (knit cap). In any event, I feel it needs to be taken off, at least temporarily, when entering a building or when being introduced to someone.

And, for some reason, I can't seem to get into a car without removing the hat as I'm climbing in. Just seems to happen automatically with me.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #55  
There was a day when eateries provided coat and hat racks. Those days are pretty much gone and even if there were a place to hang my hat at the door, it's not likely that I'm going to hang my $600 Stetson out of my reach.
*I prefer to have it next to me, but that can't always be done. :(
*Why not just leave it in your car?
 
   / Hat Etiquette #56  
I went to military college and also spent six years in the USAF. So hat/cap etiquette is very familiar to me. But the truth is, I was taught hat etiquette by my Mom and Dad long before I went to college. It is a matter of habit now.

Someone mentioned that we should lighten up about the hat thing. On the one hand, I agree. Hat etiquette, in the end, has more to do with social custom of the day. So true, there is nothing really sacred about it, it is a matter of style and styles change.

The problem is that when it comes to manners, which are simply rules designed to make us think about others above ourselves, they are not being replaced by other forms of respect. The issue is not hats. The issue is that as a nation we are becoming more and more self centered; self absorbed really. THAT is where these traditional manners have real value. Most of us spend most of our time as if we were the most important person on earth. It is human nature. Manners and etiquette are there to combat that tendency. We no longer even seem to try.

When I was young I used to deer hunt with some farmers. Tobacco and soy bean farmers. I went out to eat with them many times in local dinners and lunch places. They always removed their hats, even if we were in hunting cloths. They regarded the farmers who did not remove their hats as rednecks....not the type you'd be 'proud' to be.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #57  
Went out to pizza with a friend about five years back.

We had been duck hunting. Got back to the camper, and got washed up. Decided to go in to town for pizza instead of cooking.

We get there, go in to the restaurant. Looking around up front; they kind of had a novelty store up front. Order pizza, have hat off at table.

A couple guys ask how duck hunting was. Don't know how they knew we were duck hunting; I had changed out of all my camo stuff. Said good, got a limit that day. A couple other guys ask same thing. My buddy just kinda smiled. Told them the same, good shoot day.

Went to use the restroom, and wash my hand afterwards. Look in the mirror. My hair didn't look to bad without a hat(usually sticks up everywhere after wearing a hat...). The camo face paint I had used that day however, I had forgotten to wash off :D

My buddy, and the other guys near our table, got a good laugh from that one :D

When I was young I used to deer hunt with some farmers. Tobacco and soy bean farmers. I went out to eat with them many times in local dinners and lunch places. They always removed their hats, even if we were in hunting cloths. They regarded the farmers who did not remove their hats as rednecks....not the type you'd be 'proud' to be.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #58  
Likewise, you take your shoes off when entering a mosque.

We were brought up to take off our shoes when coming into the house. Nothing religious about it, with 5 kids in the family a lot less dirt got tracked in, likewise less wear & tear on floors. I've maintained that practice in adulthood...just doesn't feel right wearing shoes in someone's home.

Many years ago when I was single I remember dating someone who had a couple grammar-school aged kids. She was horrified when I told her kids to take off shoes before coming in the house. She was brought up that shoes were never removed until time for bed.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #59  
We were brought up to take off our shoes when coming into the house. Nothing religious about it, with 5 kids in the family a lot less dirt got tracked in, likewise less wear & tear on floors. I've maintained that practice in adulthood...just doesn't feel right wearing shoes in someone's home.

Many years ago when I was single I remember dating someone who had a couple grammar-school aged kids. She was horrified when I told her kids to take off shoes before coming in the house. She was brought up that shoes were never removed until time for bed.

Removing your shoes at the door is just good manners in Japan. Wearing shoes in the house is rude. Wearing shoes in a mosque is more serious, and should never be done.

Removing your shoes outside on the farm is just practical. It creates problems to track mud or manure into the house. Most rural homes have a mud room where you can sit to take your shoes off, even if it's just a bench on the back porch. Lots of times to keep the wife happy I will shuck the shoes, socks and pants before going into the house.
 
   / Hat Etiquette #60  
We never took our shoes off to enter the house unless we knew there was something dirty on them. But I was 55 years old when we bought 10 acres out in the country, and right after we moved in, the neighbor behind us came calling and he took his shoes off when he came in the house. Seemed to be a good idea to me and we did the same from then on. And that neighbor and his wife also quickly became our best friends down there.:laughing:
 

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