Hauling tractor with a car trailer?

RickB · Jan 16, 2009

I agree with that being a good price, especially for the Northeast. Good luck with it.

Diamondpilot · Jan 16, 2009

Man, the prices up there are steep. I bought my 18' by 82" wood deck trailer new in 2004 with brakes on one axle for $860 new. It had used tires and a spare that I finally had to replace just last October. I paid a extra $75 for the 5' ramps. I guess I could sell it for 150% of what I paid new.

Chris

LBrown59 · Jan 16, 2009

RickB said:
I agree with that being a good price, especially for the Northeast. Good luck with it.

I started out thinking about a trailer for my BX23 but Lately I've had 2 pick ups and a 8x10 building hauled by wreckers.
Now I'm so confused I'm begining to think I need a tractor to haul my pick ups and trailer on or somethin like that.

Soundguy · Jan 19, 2009

AJones said:
I am thinking about buying a trailer to haul my TC33D tractor with backhoe. There is an 18 foot car hauler, 7000lb GVW duel axels with brakes on both axels and a 2 5/16 hitch that I'm looking at. My truck is a 2008 GMC 1500 with the towing package, 6.0 v-8 and rated at a towing capicty of 8400 lbs. My thought was by going with a car hauler I would have a larger market if I ever wanted to sell it. Does any one see a problem hauling a tractor on a car hauler as long as the troactor does not exceed the capicity of the trailer?

Like ultrarunner said.. lots of us are using car haulers.

I have a 16' wood decked car hauler tandem axle, one with brakes... works fine for my CUT sized tractors.

soundguy

radioman · Jan 20, 2009

LBrown59 said:
I started out thinking about a trailer for my BX23 but Lately I've had 2 pick ups and a 8x10 building hauled by wreckers.
Now I'm so confused I'm begining to think I need a tractor to haul my pick ups and trailer on or somethin like that.

Getting a landscape trailer built like a car hauler certainly will tow your pickups with your BX. You certainly will be able to get ALOT of seat time due to fact BX high gear range is not fast enough for road travel. I driven my BX once to a job site that took me 2 hours to get there since I had NO money left to buy a trailer at the time and was earning money for the trailer by driving to the job site.

Now i got the 16 ft landscape trailer and can tow the BX to whereever i need it and can pick up materials as well with it.

schmism · Jan 20, 2009

with a 7K lb trailer your going to be right at max weight ....

if the trailer weighs 1200lbs your looking at 5800lbs for the tractor (6000 if you assume a lighter trailer)

TC33 with loader and BH will likely weigh in near 6K lbs.

when towing at near trailer max capacity, loading (were is the weight) is critical to how well its going to tow. Remember to keep 10%+ tongue weight.

RobertN · Jan 20, 2009

LBrown59 said:
OK so you can use a car hauling trailer to haul a tractor on.
But can you use a tractor hauling trailer to haul a car on?

I have hauled a couple cars on my 16' flatbed "tractor" trailer. Last one was a little Subaru wagon. Worked just fine.

You can't open doors, because in most cases they hit the trailer fenders.

Re: hauling your pickup. My 3/4 ton 4x4 long bed quad cab is too long for my 16' trailer, and too heavy too. A lighter shortbed 1/2 ton would be ok.

LBrown59 · Jan 20, 2009

radioman said:
Getting a landscape trailer built like a car hauler certainly will tow your pickups with your BX. You certainly will be able to get ALOT of seat time due to fact BX high gear range is not fast enough for road travel. I driven my BX once to a job site that took me 2 hours to get there since I had NO money left to buy a trailer at the time and was earning money for the trailer by driving to the job site. Now i got the 16 ft landscape trailer and can tow the BX to whereever i need it and can pick up materials as well with it.

Since my little import pick ups are heavier than my BX23 I guess I should be looking at a truck and trailer that will handle the pick ups and can also haul the BX 23 as a bonus .
Makes more sense than specking out a truck trailer combo for the BX23 then trying to get it to accommodate handling the pick ups.

George2615 · Jan 20, 2009

radioman said:
Getting a landscape trailer built like a car hauler certainly will tow your pickups with your BX. You certainly will be able to get ALOT of seat time due to fact BX high gear range is not fast enough for road travel. I driven my BX once to a job site that took me 2 hours to get there since I had NO money left to buy a trailer at the time and was earning money for the trailer by driving to the job site. Now i got the 16 ft landscape trailer and can tow the BX to whereever i need it and can pick up materials as well with it.

Getting a landscape trailer will work for hauling small import trucks, cars, or tractor but it will not haul a full size pickup or any vehicle wider than 76" since that is the width of a landscape trailer. If you ever need to haul a full size you'll need a deckover or a trailer with 82" between the fenders. Future uses or what if cases are something to consider before buying a trailer. I think it was DiamondPilot who posted that he went to load a dodge pickup on his trailer only to find it wouldn't fit. A few posts later I saw why and it was because his trailer is only 76" wide.

Diamondpilot · Jan 20, 2009

Yep, It was me. I drove 2 hours one night to get my neighbors who were stranded with a blown transfer case. I had hauled a Suburban on the trailer but it was tight, maybe 1" of clearance.

Chris

Soundguy · Jan 21, 2009

schmism said:
with a 7K lb trailer your going to be right at max weight ....

if the trailer weighs 1200lbs your looking at 5800lbs for the tractor (6000 if you assume a lighter trailer)

TC33 with loader and BH will likely weigh in near 6K lbs.

when towing at near trailer max capacity, loading (were is the weight) is critical to how well its going to tow. Remember to keep 10%+ tongue weight.

My 16' flatbed is 1740 with ramps according to the cat scales at the interstate.

soundguy

YesDeere · Jan 21, 2009

Mines 22 foot and rated at 7000 pounds. Works great. Drilled some holes in the decking and made small chain loops for the hold downs. Found that puttinfg the rear tires over the center of the axles made a great tow.

wkpoor · Jan 21, 2009

Getting a landscape trailer will work for hauling small import trucks, cars, or tractor but it will not haul a full size pickup or any vehicle wider than 76" since that is the width of a landscape trailer. If you ever need to haul a full size you'll need a deckover or a trailer with 82" between the fenders. Future uses or what if cases are something to consider before buying a trailer. I think it was DiamondPilot who posted that he went to load a dodge pickup on his trailer only to find it wouldn't fit. A few posts later I saw why and it was because his trailer is only 76" wide.

For several years I hauled all my tractors and vehicles on a car hauler that was 82 between fenders. Found some new PU's are too wide for that so went to deck over. Plus I got tired of squeezing vehicles and bigger tractors on between fenders. Most car doors wouldn't open over the fenders either. Everyone tried to tell me to get a deckover the first time. I finally listened 7 yrs later. They do make 7K deckovers.

LBrown59 · Jan 22, 2009

wkpoor said:
For several years I hauled all my tractors and vehicles on a car hauler that was 82 between fenders. Found some new PU's are too wide for that so went to deck over. Plus I got tired of squeezing vehicles and bigger tractors on between fenders. Most car doors wouldn't open over the fenders either. *Everyone tried to tell me to get a deckover the first time. I finally listened 7 yrs later. They do make 7K deckovers.

*But the thing is deck overs set up higer than the fender type.

wkpoor · Jan 22, 2009

*But the thing is deck overs set up higher than the fender type.

Hasn't been an issue for me at all. Thats the big scare everyone has. My drop deck actually gave me fits a couple of times loading cars with long wheel bases. My low slung Cobalt drives right on. Overall I find a deckover has more plus's than minus's. Once you make the transition to the ramps basically your on. Palleted item are no longer a fuss. And the load up higher hasn't been an issue at all.

LBrown59 · Jan 22, 2009

wkpoor said:
Hasn't been an issue for me at all. Thats the big scare everyone has. My drop deck actually gave me fits a couple of times loading cars with long wheel bases. My low slung Cobalt drives right on. Overall
*I find a deckover has more plus's than minus's. Once you make the transition to the ramps basically your on. Palleted item are no longer a fuss. And the load up higher hasn't been an issue at all.

can you get them with a tilt bed?

wkpoor · Jan 22, 2009

Brimar and Cornpro both make them. Just remember tilts are great for single items but may not be the best for multiples. Especially if they are gravity tilts. Load more than 2 items on a gravity and you may be screwed to unload without ramps. Split deck gravities help get around it for additional small items. Hard for one trailer of any type to do it all. Its a matter of compromise and determining whats most important to you if you are going to own one trailer.

Erik_in_Hoyt · Jan 22, 2009

Green Acres (regional ag rag here in the middle) has an ad on the back page for an 8.5 X 18' 7k dual action hyd tilt ST205 tires on spoke wheels w/elec brakes on one axle for $2549 at the Ace Hardware in Falls City, Ne.

rimshot · Jan 23, 2009

Here is a picture of my truck, trailer, tractor but no trouble. The trailer is 16' car trailere and my CK-20 with loader and blower is probably about 3300 lbs. As you can see the trailer is a car hauler with solid wood decking and weighs in at about 1800 lbs. I even have room to haul tractor w/ loader and backhoe attached.

the ramps are stored beneath the deck and slide in from the side. With the backhoe on that tractor and both wheels on those ramps as I load or unload, I wasn't happy the ramps bowed. Solution, I made up a stiff leg chock for the middle of the ramp. When loading or unloading of course I chock the trailer tires and place jack stands beneath rear frame of trailer.

rim

LBrown59 · Jan 23, 2009

wkpoor said:
Brimar and Cornpro both make them.
Just remember tilts are great for single items but may not be the best for multiples. Especially if they are gravity tilts. Load more than 2 items on a gravity and you may be screwed to unload without ramps. Split deck gravities help get around it for additional small items. Hard for one trailer of any type to do it all. Its a matter of compromise and determining whats most important to you if you are going to own one trailer.

My thinking is a Hyd. tilt bed and you could use ramps when if needed for mutiples.