Hauling tractor with a car trailer?

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A picture is worth a thousand words:

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[duroc]

A picture is worth a thousand words:

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What length trailer is that and who is the manufacturer of it?

 

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What length trailer is that and who is the manufacturer of it?

16' long and it's made by continental cargo

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[Gary Fowler]

I dont have pictures of my ramps but they are all 2x2x1/4 angle and I dont have a problem with them bending or bowing. 4000 # should be like loading a tinkertoy on a trailer with 7000# and up gross weight. The only problem I have with loading is that it picks up the rear of the truck when loading if you dont block up the trailer which I dont do, just continue to drive up the ramps and it eventually comes to earth but ramps dont bow and this tractor weighs in excess of 8500#. My only complaint is that when loading the B26TLB the back hoe drags a bit so the ramps could be a bit longer.

 

[Willl]

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well, maybe so but you have to remember my tractor has a backhoe and with that attached the
CK20 with backhoe and front end loader weighs in at 4000 lbs. But you are probably thinking what makes that different than a car. The difference is the entire weight of the tractor is solely on the ramp as it has a much shorter wheel base then most cars that only usually accomodate one axle at a time unless maybe it gets compared with a YUGO. The trailer gross rating is 7000 lbs. and is adequate for the tractor.

All 4 tires of your tractor can fit on the ramps at one time ?, doesn't 'look' that short/long.

 

[Diamondpilot]

<img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=296384"/>I dont have pictures of my ramps but they are all 2x2x1/4 angle and I dont have a problem with them bending or bowing. 4000 # should be like loading a tinkertoy on a trailer with 7000# and up gross weight. The only problem I have with loading is that it picks up the rear of the truck when loading if you dont block up the trailer which I dont do, just continue to drive up the ramps and it eventually comes to earth but ramps dont bow and this tractor weighs in excess of 8500#. My only complaint is that when loading the B26TLB the back hoe drags a bit so the ramps could be a bit longer.

My ramps are the same.

I would block it up. There have been a few guys get killed or seriously injured doing what you do. The rear tires come up and now PARK and the parking brake are worthless. One guy on this site banged up his tractor, trailer, and F250 doing just this. He ended up with only a broken arm.

Be careful.

Chris

 

[timswi]

My ramps are the same.

I would block it up. There have been a few guys get killed or seriously injured doing what you do. The rear tires come up and now PARK and the parking brake are worthless. One guy on this site banged up his tractor, trailer, and F250 doing just this. He ended up with only a broken arm.

Be careful.

Chris

That's true...I put my previous 8N with FEL and loaded tires on a car trailer to take to the new house and once the front tires made it to the deck, my truck lifted off the ground and moved 2' sideways...Thankfully it was on level ground and no damage happened...I blocked the trailer after that.

 

[rimshot]

View attachment 296384I dont have pictures of my ramps but they are all 2x2x1/4 angle and I dont have a problem with them bending or bowing. 4000 # should be like loading a tinkertoy on a trailer with 7000# and up gross weight. The only problem I have with loading is that it picks up the rear of the truck when loading if you dont block up the trailer which I dont do, just continue to drive up the ramps and it eventually comes to earth but ramps dont bow and this tractor weighs in excess of 8500#. My only complaint is that when loading the B26TLB the back hoe drags a bit so the ramps could be a bit longer.

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My TLB manages to drag a bit also but I made some wood plates that space the bottom of the ramp up 3" lowering the angle. That took care of the drag. So far as lifting the front of the truck I always try and prevent that by slipping in a couple of jack stands beneath rear frame of trailer and I even chock the front of tires to keep from pushing the rig ahead as I load the trailer.

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[Soundguy]

View attachment 296384I dont have pictures of my ramps but they are all 2x2x1/4 angle and I dont have a problem with them bending or bowing. 4000 # should be like loading a tinkertoy on a trailer with 7000# and up gross weight. The only problem I have with loading is that it picks up the rear of the truck when loading if you dont block up the trailer which I dont do, just continue to drive up the ramps and it eventually comes to earth but ramps dont bow and this tractor weighs in excess of 8500#. My only complaint is that when loading the B26TLB the back hoe drags a bit so the ramps could be a bit longer.

now I see why his ramps bend. I wouldn't load anything latrger than a scut or rider mower with them.

I use heavy 2" angle for most of my ramps.. my '3rd' ramp for my trikes is 3" angle, as it gets a huge portion of the tractor weight till the rears get to the other ramps

i think that wood block arangement will be dangerous. at least the way it is mocked up.

solid timber cribbing.. maybee.. beter ramps.. deffinately.

my life is worth way to much to use 'just barely-maybee' ramps loading LARGE pieces of iron...

 

[duroc]

16' long and it's made by continental cargo

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Thanks!

 

[Gary Fowler]

My ramps are the same.

I would block it up. There have been a few guys get killed or seriously injured doing what you do. The rear tires come up and now PARK and the parking brake are worthless. One guy on this site banged up his tractor, trailer, and F250 doing just this. He ended up with only a broken arm.

Be careful.

Chris

May be a bit dangerous but only if on a incline, otherwise it just kicks up a bit and then once the front wheels hit the trailer a bit, it settles back down. How in heck would loading a trailer cause the truck to just sideways 2 feet unless you had the wheels turned or your trailer jackknifed which is a big NO NO in all cases. I park mine straight in line with the trailer and front tires straight. I have a raised road bed out to my shop that I like to park the rear of the trailer up against it. It allows for less angle on the ramps and the frame of the trailer is only a few inches off the ground so it doesnt lift the truck wheels up off the ground before the tractor gets on the trailer. On flat ground the truck will skid forward a bit if someone isnt holding the brake pedal but nothing dangerous to do in my mind at least. I always use 4 wd on the tractor so it climbs up the ramps on its own.
Chocking the front would be good, but if I am going to carry around a bunch of loose material, I will just carry some jack stands to put under the trailer frame. I have been thinking that maybe I can design some support stand that will fold under the trailer and pin up after loading. That would avoid piling in a bunch of loose stuff in the truck. I think that would be pretty easy to build and install on the trailer.

 

[firemanmike69]

My ramps are the same.

I would block it up. There have been a few guys get killed or seriously injured doing what you do. The rear tires come up and now PARK and the parking brake are worthless. One guy on this site banged up his tractor, trailer, and F250 doing just this. He ended up with only a broken arm.

Be careful.

Chris

You could also put the truck in 4wd to have "park" apply to the front wheels as well

 

[timswi]

You could also put the truck in 4wd to have "park" apply to the front wheels as well

Not sure that works with electronic 4wd, never tried it but I do know there is a 2 second delay before mine kicks into 4x4 after the motor is started...Maybe if the tow vehicle is left running while loading?...Who knows. I'm not trying that.

 

[rimshot]

Sounds like we better all be using our seat belts., at the very least.

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[firemanmike69]

Not sure that works with electronic 4wd, never tried it but I do know there is a 2 second delay before mine kicks into 4x4 after the motor is started...Maybe if the tow vehicle is left running while loading?...Who knows. I'm not trying that.

It may not work with that, my trailer ramps have stands so I don't have to worry about it

 

[Diamondpilot]

You could also put the truck in 4wd to have "park" apply to the front wheels as well

It works on my Fords and Nissan. There would be no way to load and unload the boats I do without it. Not sure about other brands.

Chris

 

[timswi]

It works on my Fords and Nissan. There would be no way to load and unload the boats I do without it. Not sure about other brands.

Chris

Are they running or shut off..That's the question.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Are they running or shut off..That's the question.

I never shut off on the ramp but my guess is they would since vacuum holds the hubs. So no running, no vacuum.

Chris

 

[timswi]

I never shut off on the ramp but my guess is they would since vacuum holds the hubs. So no running, no vacuum.

Chris

I've never had mine slide on in the snow when parked on a slope running and in 4x4...So I assume that it's also loked in. My curiosity was whther the gears stay locked with the power off...I'll have to test that once..True no motor, no vacuum...But I still wonder if the gears remain engaged if the 4x4 was in when shut off.