k0ua
Epic Contributor
Well, there is one way to find out. Hook it up and throw a load on it sudden like.
Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements
- Thread starter gogojuice
- Start date
- Views: 10713
Well, there is one way to find out. Hook it up and throw a load on it sudden like.
I suppose.. What kind of load though.. It's not connected to the house... yet.... thats the next step. Right now I am working on the mobility part.
Could I plug a saw into it. Or do I need to go much bigger?
I have sent an email to the manufacture too asking them their opinion.
Worst case scenario... I could just get the pto shaft cut. (thats not that bad)
Could I plug a saw into it. Or do I need to go much bigger?
I have sent an email to the manufacture too asking them their opinion.
Worst case scenario... I could just get the pto shaft cut. (thats not that bad)
k0ua
Epic Contributor
you need a load near the maximum HP rating of your tractors PTO to test with. so 746 watts per horsepower X however many horsepower your PTO puts out, what? about 19 or so? 746x19=14,174 watts. So no, a small saw is not going to test the torque of your generator.
Thanks for all the points raised.... especially the safety ones.
I'm going to put it on the dolly and get the PTO shaft cut and then connect them. That way it will be connected to the tractor when in use. Don't want to mess around with safety.
I'm going to put it on the dolly and get the PTO shaft cut and then connect them. That way it will be connected to the tractor when in use. Don't want to mess around with safety.
TractorGuy
Elite Member
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2013
- Messages
- 4,616
- Location
- N. FL
- Tractor
- John Deere 4310 CUT, Ford New Holland 575E Cab Backhoe (sold), John Deere F725 Front Mount Mower, Kubota LX3310 cab.
So you guys are saying our little under powered tractors can still spin a PTO generator up within the limits of our PTO horse power and be functional to a degree. That is good to know! I have always wanted a PTO genset but figured I would be wasting my money unless I had a bigger tractor.
Mind telling us where you bought yours and how much you paid for it?
Mind telling us where you bought yours and how much you paid for it?
Thats my understanding. I bought this one second hand. Saved a lot. The person had medical issues.
It's bigger than I can use (now).. but your right when you say its limited by the tractor (in my case).
I didn't want another engine to worry about and the cost for this size was much less than a traditional generator.
It's bigger than I can use (now).. but your right when you say its limited by the tractor (in my case).
I didn't want another engine to worry about and the cost for this size was much less than a traditional generator.
k0ua
Epic Contributor
Sure it will work to a degree. When the electrical load becomes too large, the generator head will become too hard for your PTO to spin it, and you will have a drop in RPM from the tractors engine that the tractors governor will not be able to overcome, then the voltage output will sag and the line frequency will drop also. But if you keep the load within what your PTO will handle you should be fine. There might be some additional losses over using a much smaller generator that is sized to your tractor from bearing losses, but I would think this would be minimal.
jimmysisson
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2005
- Messages
- 2,358
- Location
- W.Mass
- Tractor
- 1993 NH 2120 (the best), 1974 MF 135 (sold, but solid), 1947 Farmall A (bought, sold, bought back, sold again), 1956 MH50 lbt (sold, in 1980, darn it)
I agree w posters who rec a quick hitch. You don't want to be wondering what an un-attended machine is doing. Is your heavy, wide, weighted, vibrating genset creeping slowly away from the tractor, etc?
Besides, w a quick hitch extending the arms ~3" you might not need to cut the driveshaft. If you do, it's a 15-20 min job. Play it safe since you won't be watching the action.
Jim
Besides, w a quick hitch extending the arms ~3" you might not need to cut the driveshaft. If you do, it's a 15-20 min job. Play it safe since you won't be watching the action.
Jim
varmint
Elite Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2003
- Messages
- 2,577
- Location
- Northern Maryland
- Tractor
- Kubota B8200, then a Kubota L3130 HST, now a Kubota L3400 HST
FWIW, Kubota may offer a "kit" for extendable links for your 2670- I know they did/do for the L3400. I too would be concerned about an unsecured gen set moving around, or worse, so using the 3-point seems safer, at least until you have some experience to go with. Having something go wrong while you aren't there could be a real catastrophe! And, PTO's seem to get easier to install and remove with some practice. And Fluid Film.
BKBoiss
Gold Member
Just a thought. Is there anywhere you could set the generator up and leave it connected to the house and just build a little roof or dog house type deal over it. Then you could bolt it down to a couple railroad ties going cross wise or something similar and when you need it you just back up and hook up the PTO.
BKBoiss. No unfortunately not. I'm going to pull it of the garage and hook it up to the electrical outlet which is next to the garage (if that makes sense) It will run outside the garage... but stay inside
I called Kubota.. they will do my PTO shaft for $10.00. I can't go wrong with that. I like window shopping there anyhow.. so its a win win.
The one I purchase was the IMD 16 KW with AVR, 3 point hitch assembly and PTO shaft.. All out the door was $1852.02 USD.
IMD 16KW PTO Generator
This is what it looks like. Same setup
It already has a platform.. I just want to make it mobile. So that is why I'm adding the dollies.
I called Kubota.. they will do my PTO shaft for $10.00. I can't go wrong with that. I like window shopping there anyhow.. so its a win win.
The one I purchase was the IMD 16 KW with AVR, 3 point hitch assembly and PTO shaft.. All out the door was $1852.02 USD.
IMD 16KW PTO Generator
This is what it looks like. Same setup
It already has a platform.. I just want to make it mobile. So that is why I'm adding the dollies.
jenkinsph
Super Star Member
What kind of outlet set up are you using?
This may interest you as an alternative.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...12-pto-generator-post3061038.html#post3061038
Bruce
Luke'sScreenName
Elite Member
- Joined
- Mar 1, 2015
- Messages
- 3,710
- Location
- Lakes Region, NH
- Tractor
- Kubota MX4800 with BH-90X hoe; Hustler FastTrack 48; B3300SU (sold); 1969 Case 680B CK (sold)
So did I until threads on TBN convinced me otherwise. Seems logical; less engines to maintain, and it seem like it should be cheaper to buy (but as far as I can tell its actually not) but it's not a clear-cut advantage.
Why are PTO generators so ridiculously expensive anyway?
Up here *canada* I just received a post on kijji that has 25KW PTO gen set with trailer for 1544.04 US. Very good brand too.
Of course you have to have a tractor that can make that.. but I don't see 25kw gen sets for that anywhere else.
A little off topic.. but this was my reasoning for going PTO:
I may move one day and don't want to buy another.
I have a tractor (I don't buy the argument that the world ends if you have it connected to the generator because you may want it somewhere else at the same time... I can prioritize just fine)
I am not great at mechanical stuff. (no engine.. less worry.. tractor gets done as scheduled and is in regular use)
It it cheaper to purchase a larger home unit. See how much a quality 25 KW Gen set cost.
What I didn't like:
Its not automatic. You have to set it up.
You have to have fuel on hand (pre planning takes care of this as diesel is on hand for other engines)
Of course you have to have a tractor that can make that.. but I don't see 25kw gen sets for that anywhere else.
A little off topic.. but this was my reasoning for going PTO:
I may move one day and don't want to buy another.
I have a tractor (I don't buy the argument that the world ends if you have it connected to the generator because you may want it somewhere else at the same time... I can prioritize just fine)
I am not great at mechanical stuff. (no engine.. less worry.. tractor gets done as scheduled and is in regular use)
It it cheaper to purchase a larger home unit. See how much a quality 25 KW Gen set cost.
What I didn't like:
Its not automatic. You have to set it up.
You have to have fuel on hand (pre planning takes care of this as diesel is on hand for other engines)
varmint
Elite Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2003
- Messages
- 2,577
- Location
- Northern Maryland
- Tractor
- Kubota B8200, then a Kubota L3130 HST, now a Kubota L3400 HST
No one has mentioned that just having a generator means that the power likely won't fail!
After losing power too many times, sometimes for a week at a time (hurricanes, wide-spread outages) I found a new gas generator at a good price around 12 years ago (Home Depot had been cleaned out, re-ordered way too many, and was left with an over-supply) and have seldom used it over the years. Our utility has invested in serious tree trimming, largely avoiding outages. The occasional car into a pole still happens, but those are mostly fixed before I need to drag out the generator.
I drain the fuel, so running it once a year with a load hooked up seems adequate. At least I hope so. A friend on Maryland's Eastern shore got a heavy surplus PTO generator (the chicken houses over there MUST have backup power, so there were/are PTO generators galore, and they get updated as needed) but he hasn't needed it. Just as well, since he now lacks the power needed to really drive it: 40+ PTO HP.
After losing power too many times, sometimes for a week at a time (hurricanes, wide-spread outages) I found a new gas generator at a good price around 12 years ago (Home Depot had been cleaned out, re-ordered way too many, and was left with an over-supply) and have seldom used it over the years. Our utility has invested in serious tree trimming, largely avoiding outages. The occasional car into a pole still happens, but those are mostly fixed before I need to drag out the generator.
I drain the fuel, so running it once a year with a load hooked up seems adequate. At least I hope so. A friend on Maryland's Eastern shore got a heavy surplus PTO generator (the chicken houses over there MUST have backup power, so there were/are PTO generators galore, and they get updated as needed) but he hasn't needed it. Just as well, since he now lacks the power needed to really drive it: 40+ PTO HP.
Jenkinsph... I'm not sure on the outlet yet.... I have some ideas.. but I need to check first.
I looked at generlnk.. but I was informed by the company that they only go to 10KW.
I would personally (from what I have looked into....) like to go with an interlock device. That seems like the most economical approach.
However.. I may have to go the expensive way and get another panel
if the rules state.
P.S the dryer plug is out lol
I called the power company. They said they don't care on their end. As long as the electrician complies with the rules and it is inspected. They will do a disconnect / reconnect all in one day at no cost.
This is in Ontario, Canada.
If there are any other options... lets hear them
I looked at generlnk.. but I was informed by the company that they only go to 10KW.
I would personally (from what I have looked into....) like to go with an interlock device. That seems like the most economical approach.
However.. I may have to go the expensive way and get another panel
if the rules state. P.S the dryer plug is out lol
I called the power company. They said they don't care on their end. As long as the electrician complies with the rules and it is inspected. They will do a disconnect / reconnect all in one day at no cost.
This is in Ontario, Canada.
If there are any other options... lets hear them
jenkinsph
Super Star Member
As long as you connect "to code" you should be fine.:thumbsup:
