Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements

/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #21  
You need a quick attach for your 3 point hitch. Like this one

3 point hitch | 3 point quick hitch | 3 point tractor hitch | The Deltahook

Attaching the pto shaft to the tractor can be a pain. You need a fair amount of upper body strength and a pair of strong hands, especially if you have a pto coupling with the button-type release that you work with your thumb. A better choice is the pto shaft with the slide-collar locking mechanism which allows you to use both hands to get the pto shaft attached to the tractor.

Good luck
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #22  
One little trick that an make PTO shaft hookups a little easier is to suspend the PTO shaft from a bungee cord to take the weight of the shaft off of your arms while you fiddle around getting the splines lined up and the coupler slid on to the PTO stub on the tractor. You will be surprised how much this can help. PTO shafts and all 3 of the coupler methods are pretty much an invention of the Devil, but with some "tricks" like keeping everything greased and deburred, and a lot of practice you will not hate them quite so much as you will at first.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #23  
I recommend a quick hitch also. If you will be unavailable or working out of town make sure the genset is hooked up before you leave out. Really it is a matter of choosing what is the priority implement to leave attached.

FWIW, Deere does offer an Auto Hitch which is a quick hitch with pto connection included. Should work with most 3ph brands and may make it easier to deal with the pto. Some set up would be required to make this work for you. Worth looking into imo.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #24  
You know I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet so I will. I think your best all around solution would be to buy a second tractor, you know to make it simple for your wife that is. Of course being that it would be used in winter you should probably make sure it has a cab with heat and a radio and other such "necessities".
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #25  
One of the first tricks I learned with my BX2660 was to go to see on TBN what they do and realized it was easy to attach a few casters to a pallet or a few boards and make rolling dollies for my equipment .....the second best advice it took me three years to come across was that it was way easier to align the pto shaft splines with the rear pto splines by putting the PTO shift lever in mid pto position so that I could turn by hand the rear pto shaft. Another very helpful aspect was to replace the turnbuckles stabilizers that you bust your knuckles on loosening and tightening........... with pinned sliding adjustable stabilizers they are so much easier and even hold the three point hitch wide open so you can back up close right away. I got mine from a weblink I found on TBN but I think he no longer makes them.........but there are others out there.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #26  
You know I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet so I will. I think your best all around solution would be to buy a second tractor, you know to make it simple for your wife that is. Of course being that it would be used in winter you should probably make sure it has a cab with heat and a radio and other such "necessities".

This is the answer to all our problems with multiple attachments.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #27  
One of the first tricks I learned with my BX2660 was to go to see on TBN what they do and realized it was easy to attach a few casters to a pallet or a few boards and make rolling dollies for my equipment .....the second best advice it took me three years to come across was that it was way easier to align the pto shaft splines with the rear pto splines by putting the PTO shift lever in mid pto position so that I could turn by hand the rear pto shaft. Another very helpful aspect was to replace the turnbuckles stabilizers that you bust your knuckles on loosening and tightening........... with pinned sliding adjustable stabilizers they are so much easier and even hold the three point hitch wide open so you can back up close right away. I got mine from a weblink I found on TBN but I think he no longer makes them.........but there are others out there.

Mark Hodge. Very good product. Way more strong than the junk that came on the BX. markhdg@gmail.com
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/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements
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#28  
My genset arrive today. It's heavier than I thought. I got a imd 16kw with AVR.

Problem is.. the shaft is a bit long. So........
Do I get it cut down to fit on the genset or leave it long and not connect it to the tractor via 3pt. I think...(at the moment) of going the dolly route. If I have wheels on it with brakes it should not move? I'm not looking at hauling the genset anywhere... just role it out.
Thoughts on this??

Second issue....
It seems that I am having trouble connecting that pto shaft. I can get the one to click in on the tractor.. but on the genset the collar doesn't snap in. I have tried it with both ends.. same results.. so I think its not the pto shaft...
I had a lot of trouble getting my hand in there around the guards.. so perhaps I just didn't get it right. I'll give it another shot. I'm assuming that it should click in there like my belly mower right?

***P.S I'm new to this and trying to learn***

Thanks for all the help
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #29  
you are going to need some way to secure that generator good to the ground if you don't attach it to the 3 point. The PTO shaft will attempt to spin the entire generator around in the dirt. There is a lot of resistance in the generator head (several horsepower's worth) and it may be easier for it to flop the generator around on the ground than spin the generator head.

You must make sure that the PTO couplers on both ends are securely attached by attempting to pull them off. DO NOT FIRE IT UP WITHOUT DOING THIS! If your PTO shaft comes off of the generator head, you will have a nasty "tiger by the tail". whirling around in a big circle at 540 RPM. You are not going to like it one bit.
 
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#30  
I have decided to put it on dollies.

My idea will be to put it on casters with brakes and then attach it to 2x6 and plywood. I'm hoping that will prevent any type of spin, but at the same time allow for easy operations.

Thoughts on that idea?
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #31  
I have decided to put it on dollies.

My idea will be to put it on casters with brakes and then attach it to 2x6 and plywood. I'm hoping that will prevent any type of spin, but at the same time allow for easy operations.

Thoughts on that idea?

Worth a shot. I might throw a few bags of cement mix onto the Dolly also, and bolt the Genny down.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #32  
I have decided to put it on dollies. My idea will be to put it on casters with brakes and then attach it to 2x6 and plywood. I'm hoping that will prevent any type of spin, but at the same time allow for easy operations. Thoughts on that idea?

Interesting idea. It's not as if you're going to go anywhere once you fire up the Genny, so why have it attached to the tractor in the first place? By leaving it sit on the floor, all you have to do is just disconnect the PTO shaft and drive away after you're finished with it.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #33  
Interesting idea. It's not as if you're going to go anywhere once you fire up the Genny, so why have it attached to the tractor in the first place? By leaving it sit on the floor, all you have to do is just disconnect the PTO shaft and drive away after you're finished with it.

Most folks don't run their PTO generators off their tractors indoors. The generator still needs to be mobile.
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #34  
I think you will need Leveling Threaded-Stem Casters so you can get them off the wheels not just breaks.. if its like my 7KW or puny 2k portable those things rattle pretty good and I think you would be hard pressed to keep it in one space with just brakes on wheels..
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #35  
Hoping someone can provide some options here.

I have a Kubota BX2670.

I have a rear blade RB05 and have just purchased a PTO generator with a three point hitch.

In the winter I will leave the blade on... but if power goes out.... I would like to be able to change it over to the generator.

What would my options be and what would you recommend?

Thanks

What is the PTO HP requirement on the generator? I haven't seen any that work with less than 30 PTO HP. Your tractor only has 19.5.
 
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#36  
Its an IMD 16KW with AVR.

I know I can't power the full use of it right now.. but that is ok.. I may get a bigger tractor one day :)
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #37  
If 16 kW generator is running at full output that's 21.5 horsepower of spin.
If not secured to tractor or anchored to floor/ground, I think whether it spins the genny's rotor or spins the WHOLE generator becomes a valid question. (Though I've never actually heard of this happening)
Whether is does or doesn't, one would think the answer becomes a (complicated) function of the width of the plywood base, weight of generator, the electrical load demand, etc..) as to whether the genny's rotor spins or the WHOLE generator spins.
Maybe a couple bags of cement as an anchor might win that fight, maybe not. I wouldn't want to be guessing.
 
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#38  
Good points. I want to me as safe as possible for me and the family.

I have fired it up with it sitting on the pavement and taken it up to speed. There was no movement on the pavement. However.. I did not have it under load. I don't know if this changes things as I'm new to this.

I will anchor it to the dollies with ubolts 3 on each side to the frame. So the frame of the genset would be connected to the dollies.

The generator is dam heavy too.. It took two of us to just budge it.

This is what it looks like

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Thanks for the help
 
/ Help setting up tractor for multiple attachements #39  
If 16 kW generator is running at full output that's 21.5 horsepower of spin.
If not secured to tractor or anchored to floor/ground, I think whether it spins the genny's rotor or spins the WHOLE generator becomes a valid question. (Though I've never actually heard of this happening)
Whether is does or doesn't, one would think the answer becomes a (complicated) function of the width of the plywood base, weight of generator, the electrical load demand, etc..) as to whether the genny's rotor spins or the WHOLE generator spins.
Maybe a couple bags of cement as an anchor might win that fight, maybe not. I wouldn't want to be guessing.

I think whatever he fastens the generator to needs to be wide not narrow. I have heard of several people turning over their generator trailers because the trailer was too narrow. 20+ horsepower is a lot of twisting motion. And keep in mind without an electrical load on the generator the head will spin pretty easily, but as soon as a huge electrical load is placed on the generator then that load will greatly increase the resistance to spinning of the generator head.

So bottom line, just because you hook it up with no/light load and everything is fine, then the well pump kicks on and look out.
 
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#40  
So.. looking at the website and the manual.. it says the generator is 185 lbs. Then another 79 pounds for the three point assembly. Thats 264 pounds with out the dollies etc.

Don't' know if that info helps or not?
 

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