Hi all, i took everyones good advice and bought a used TSC 6 footer. excellent shape, picked it up this morning for $350. I have to say the quality of the larger rakes at TSC is very good. I especially like the way they have the tines mounted. The mount gives upper and lower support and easy replacement. Again, thanks for everyones replies, good to know there are folks out there willing to help with questions. Kjgces.