High elevation tractors

[wasatchcomm]

I live at 7300’ wyoming
Looking for the following

Cab
4x4
Power shuttle
40-70hp
Snow plowing
Dirt leveling
Fencing
Auger
Compost piles
Hay round bales
Dragging
Raking
Small acreage
30acres
Looking new and used
Budget under $40k
I’ve been looking at TYM
But I’ve been told not good at my elevation.
Some models have turbos
MAHINDRA bobcat dealers real close
all other dealers 3 hours away
Not sure I will spend 100 hours per year in the tractor
So I’ve been eyeballing low hour used ones on tractor house.
Any input would be good
Especially concerning my elevation and makes models to avoid or HP I should be considering.

I found a 2015 Branson 6530 with less than 150 hours at a great price with most of the implements I want.
Cummins engine

Cummins B3.3
diesel
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled
Displacement	198.9 ci 3.3 L
Bore/Stroke	3.74x4.52 inches 95 x 115 mm
Power (gross)	65 hp 48.5 kW
Air cleaner	dry element
Pre-heating	block heater (optional)
Compression	18:1
Rated RPM	2600
Starter type	electric

Not sure if this engine will be good. For my elevation. And my tasks,
Thank you in advance.

 

[big bubba]

what is PTO hp & gpm hyd flow?

 

[nybirdman]

Not familiar with Branson or high elevation but at 65HP if it acts like 50HP you should be all right.

 

[wasatchcomm]

The Branson from what I can find has 40hp PTO and 11GPM

 

[wasatchcomm]

Not familiar with Branson or high elevation but at 65HP if it acts like 50HP you should be all right.

Ok
That’s what I was thinking if I had a NA 65hp might be good at my elevation
Unless I get a 50hp turbo to help compensate
Another question would be DPF filters clogging easier at elevation? Is that a consideration?

 

[big bubba]

the PTO hp rating should be higher than 40hp if engine is rated 65hp?
btw welcome to this forum, regards

 

[nybirdman]

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I was close ,you would lose 14.2 HP

 

[ruffdog]

If it were me, I would definitely be looking at tractors with a turbo. At high altitude, you have less air to compress for ignition. Getting a bigger tractor does not fix that problem. You want the engine to run good and clean so you need a turbo to help with that.

 

[wasatchcomm]

the PTO hp rating should be higher than 40hp if engine is rated 65hp?
btw welcome to this forum, regards

You are correct it’s 57hp

 

[wasatchcomm]

If it were me, I would definitely be looking at tractors with a turbo. At high altitude, you have less air to compress for ignition. Getting a bigger tractor does not fix that problem. You want the engine to run good and clean so you need a turbo to help with that.

I run turbo snowmobiles for a reason
I was thinking the same thing for a tractor would be smart at my altitude. With that said what HP range should I concentrate looking for 40hp-60hp turbo ? I know nothing of tractors I know what I will be doing and what I want to do is all
Like I first mentioned.
Thanks for all responses

 

[wasatchcomm]

I spoke with a dealer that sells both tym and LS he told me they have exchanged tym for la die to poor performance at elevation due to the dpf vs the regen the LS has.
He told me he will sell me either but strongly recommended the LS over the tym for that reason alone and the mechanical fuel rail I think he mentioned as well saying the LS has a more advanced fuel system.
Direct injection maybe?
MAHINDRA has neither dpf or regen, as I understand it
Maybe I should concentrate on a MAHINDRA also having dealer close by.

 

[big bubba]

sounds like you're doing the homework. wise to post here, & take your time to make the best informed purchase decision. so easy to get caught up into the buying frenzy & making a hasty decision you may regret.
ball's in your court, patience brings rewards, good luck

 

[ning]

The Branson is older; any DPF it has is probably essentially optional in that it can likely be removed without concerning likely almost non-existent electronics -- if you're interested in that, I'd look into it further. That said, I enjoy the fact that my tractor (DPF) doesn't stink...

 

[big bubba]

OP: i recommend you post this thread in the LS forum if you're considering that make.

 

[TractorTYMe]

TYM (Kukje engines) are more reliable because of the mechanical injected feature, I see all too many issues with regen on LS engines. They sell the 5520 and 574 with 55Hp on turbos. VERY reliable engines.

 

[wasatchcomm]

TYM (Kukje engines) are more reliable because of the mechanical injected feature, I see all too many issues with regen on LS engines. They sell the 5520 and 574 with 55Hp on turbos. VERY reliable engines.

I’m glad to hear that. Ive been looking at those 2 models and a few MAHINDRA the most

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

TractorData.com Branson 6530C tractor information

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[ericm979]

I've had good service from my Branson but the parts situation is not great, and mine's more common than the xx30 series. They didn't sell many of those.

I think most of the LSes have turbos, which will help at altitude.

Bransons use mechanical injection while just about everyone else uses common rail EFI.

Mahindra has a DOC and common rail EFI. I was considering one when I bought my Branson but the dealer said that they had needed a number of ECU reflashes, and the tractors had to come back to the dealer for that. With the dealer being 3 hours away that disqualified them for me. I thought the Bransons had better build quality as well. This was before TYM bought Branson's parent company and folded the line into theirs. It may have changed.

 

[wasatchcomm]

I spent the morning talking to a dealer in Oklahoma about the TYM 574HC
He’s got a great price on it delivered to me with 3rd function installed and still $1k cheaper than dealer 3 hours from me. Not sure how that’s possible maybe volume?

 

[TractorTYMe]

Better hope you learn your own tractor to know since you're 3 hours away from a dealer anyway. Enjoy the good price and learn all about it. I service my own T474 even tho I only live 20 minutes from my dealer. I've never needed them for warranty work.