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It's pretty sandy alright. We found several layers of sand and one layer of clay as we cut into the hill. One sand layer is pure beach sand (know locally as sugar sand). Several feet further down are the clay layers, several colors. We bought the property from a clay company when they decided not to mine the clay.
It's pretty sandy alright. We found several layers of sand and one layer of clay as we cut into the hill. One sand layer is pure beach sand (know locally as sugar sand). Several feet further down are the clay layers, several colors. We bought the property from a clay company when they decided not to mine the clay.
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They are very wide - four foot. They'll support the wall (16 in thick x 10 ft 6 in height) and go under the concrete slab floor. Definitely not the norm for local construction. House is being built to the latest 2002 international codes. Foreman told me that they poured 47 yards into the footings yesterday. He is estimating 100+ yards for the foundation walls. We were going to have a 12 inch wall with a ledge protruding at the top for siding materials (stone) but it turned out to be cheaper to pour 16 inch walls and make a simple step for the ledge. I'm sure that the basement will be the coolest location in the house during summer with that much mass.
They are very wide - four foot. They'll support the wall (16 in thick x 10 ft 6 in height) and go under the concrete slab floor. Definitely not the norm for local construction. House is being built to the latest 2002 international codes. Foreman told me that they poured 47 yards into the footings yesterday. He is estimating 100+ yards for the foundation walls. We were going to have a 12 inch wall with a ledge protruding at the top for siding materials (stone) but it turned out to be cheaper to pour 16 inch walls and make a simple step for the ledge. I'm sure that the basement will be the coolest location in the house during summer with that much mass.
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I'll be interested in seeing it finished too (probably 12 to 18 months). Main floor has several sitting areas/jogs in the wall to create views from all parts of the house. There's something like 90+ windows and doors in the current house plan (walkout basement, main floor and upper master bedroom suite). I posted a front and rear elevation drawing in another thread (House started) a couple of weeks ago. The floorplan is complicated and may wind up too small to post. I'll see what I can do later.
I'll be interested in seeing it finished too (probably 12 to 18 months). Main floor has several sitting areas/jogs in the wall to create views from all parts of the house. There's something like 90+ windows and doors in the current house plan (walkout basement, main floor and upper master bedroom suite). I posted a front and rear elevation drawing in another thread (House started) a couple of weeks ago. The floorplan is complicated and may wind up too small to post. I'll see what I can do later.
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2002 international codes???? what the heck is that? sounds like a 5 story office building foundation. Can anybody promise me I wont be faced with these codes when it comes time for me to build.
2002 international codes???? what the heck is that? sounds like a 5 story office building foundation. Can anybody promise me I wont be faced with these codes when it comes time for me to build.
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I can't give you all of the details regarding the new codes (since I don't know them) and many states, etc, haven't implimented them yet. There's probably a website somewhere with an FAQ section that describes them. Here in SC, they are not manditory at this time. We decided with the architect and contractor to build to that criteria anyway since we wanted to build the critical sections very solidly and we are fairly deep into the hillside. (The county inspectors will need to be educated too). The architect designs both commercial and residential structures. This house project is probably his favorate one over many years and designs. For me, it's more of a canvas for design and woodworking/landscaping which will take me at least 5 years to complete. Being retired, I can focus fulltime on it while my wife works with the horses & livestock (her retirement dream).
I can't give you all of the details regarding the new codes (since I don't know them) and many states, etc, haven't implimented them yet. There's probably a website somewhere with an FAQ section that describes them. Here in SC, they are not manditory at this time. We decided with the architect and contractor to build to that criteria anyway since we wanted to build the critical sections very solidly and we are fairly deep into the hillside. (The county inspectors will need to be educated too). The architect designs both commercial and residential structures. This house project is probably his favorate one over many years and designs. For me, it's more of a canvas for design and woodworking/landscaping which will take me at least 5 years to complete. Being retired, I can focus fulltime on it while my wife works with the horses & livestock (her retirement dream).
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JTD,
<font color=blue>We were going to have a 12 inch wall with a ledge protruding at the top for siding materials (stone) but it turned out to be cheaper to pour 16 inch walls and make a simple step for the ledge.</font color=blue>
That sure is massive and like you said will provide a great "heat sink" effect to keep the basement temperate. Not sure exactly what you meant by the simple step for the ledge but just be careful that water that gets behind the stone/masonry fascia does not have an easy way to get into framing. We had brickledge on our foundation for the fascia brick and when the tyvek was applied to the sheating the tyvek tape overlapped onto the brickledge, thus sheeting any water that gets behind the brick (and there will be some at some point) down past the sill plate and out through the weep holes in the bottom course of bricks. Hopefully that was clearer then mud. If not then maybe I can try to sketch a pic.
JTD,
<font color=blue>We were going to have a 12 inch wall with a ledge protruding at the top for siding materials (stone) but it turned out to be cheaper to pour 16 inch walls and make a simple step for the ledge.</font color=blue>
That sure is massive and like you said will provide a great "heat sink" effect to keep the basement temperate. Not sure exactly what you meant by the simple step for the ledge but just be careful that water that gets behind the stone/masonry fascia does not have an easy way to get into framing. We had brickledge on our foundation for the fascia brick and when the tyvek was applied to the sheating the tyvek tape overlapped onto the brickledge, thus sheeting any water that gets behind the brick (and there will be some at some point) down past the sill plate and out through the weep holes in the bottom course of bricks. Hopefully that was clearer then mud. If not then maybe I can try to sketch a pic.
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RobS,
I know what you mean. They did pour the footings today. I stopped out at lunch time and got so caught up it I 45 minutes late getting back. Nice group of guys. The excavation team (father & son) were helping out the cement team. It was four guys, two young summer help types for back muscle and the two guys who I figure own the company. They have been pouring foundations for over 25 years.
They are going to get working on setting up the walls and plan to pour next Thursday (rain forecasted so far) so we will see how it goes. I plan to take the day off and watch it brings back the childhood days of suburbia and watching all the houses going up.
Took some new pics and this one is the basement with the footings poured and the stone in place. They left a pile of stone since the excavators have a small area to dig out due mud moving.
They are going to put extra stone in before they backfill after the walls are in on the side and front right corner. This will help with drainage and water issues.
RobS,
I know what you mean. They did pour the footings today. I stopped out at lunch time and got so caught up it I 45 minutes late getting back. Nice group of guys. The excavation team (father & son) were helping out the cement team. It was four guys, two young summer help types for back muscle and the two guys who I figure own the company. They have been pouring foundations for over 25 years.
They are going to get working on setting up the walls and plan to pour next Thursday (rain forecasted so far) so we will see how it goes. I plan to take the day off and watch it brings back the childhood days of suburbia and watching all the houses going up.
Took some new pics and this one is the basement with the footings poured and the stone in place. They left a pile of stone since the excavators have a small area to dig out due mud moving.
They are going to put extra stone in before they backfill after the walls are in on the side and front right corner. This will help with drainage and water issues.
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Plans call for a poly vapor barrier (probably Tyvek) on the walls overlapping the "membrane water proofing system" on the foundation walls. This membrane is then covered with a "hydrostatic pressure relief system" (Enkadrain) to the bottom of the footing. There is also a 2 ft by 3 ft gravel bed around a 4" perforated drain at the base of the foundation wall to remove any water from the hillside. The house has a granite sill with cultured stone veneer as a wainscoating. Above this is a mixture of brick and wood siding dependent upon location. Thanks for the tip. I'll quiz the contractor about this potential problem area.
Plans call for a poly vapor barrier (probably Tyvek) on the walls overlapping the "membrane water proofing system" on the foundation walls. This membrane is then covered with a "hydrostatic pressure relief system" (Enkadrain) to the bottom of the footing. There is also a 2 ft by 3 ft gravel bed around a 4" perforated drain at the base of the foundation wall to remove any water from the hillside. The house has a granite sill with cultured stone veneer as a wainscoating. Above this is a mixture of brick and wood siding dependent upon location. Thanks for the tip. I'll quiz the contractor about this potential problem area.
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UGGGGG!!! You guys are killing me! I am still about 3 weeks away from ground breaking. We just went over the first draft of plans, and are waiting for the redraw. Good news. The house ended up a little bigger then we planed./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Banks all set, starting to pick stuff out, so we are on the way. Will be happy when that first hole is dug though.
UGGGGG!!! You guys are killing me! I am still about 3 weeks away from ground breaking. We just went over the first draft of plans, and are waiting for the redraw. Good news. The house ended up a little bigger then we planed./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Banks all set, starting to pick stuff out, so we are on the way. Will be happy when that first hole is dug though.
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s1120,
That is great news. Since it is bigger than you thought is it costing more than you thought? Once you get moving the rain will start and hold things up. I never checked the weather as MUCH as I do now. The site is ready for the to start the forms tomorrow (I hope) and if the rain holds off they will pour by the end of the week. It takes so long to get this far.
s1120,
That is great news. Since it is bigger than you thought is it costing more than you thought? Once you get moving the rain will start and hold things up. I never checked the weather as MUCH as I do now. The site is ready for the to start the forms tomorrow (I hope) and if the rain holds off they will pour by the end of the week. It takes so long to get this far.
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S1120, It's good to hear of progress. It can seem verrrrry slooooow to get started. If you haven't been through this before be prepared for moments of great activity and quick decisions followed by times when nothing seems to be happening. You just have to pace yourself and your expectations. I enjoy the process while my wife ends up ready to strangle the foreman, contractor and whoever else slows it down near the end. I've learned that you've got to get away from it for awhile so we'll be on vacation the month of August trying not to think about it. Best of luck on your new house.
S1120, It's good to hear of progress. It can seem verrrrry slooooow to get started. If you haven't been through this before be prepared for moments of great activity and quick decisions followed by times when nothing seems to be happening. You just have to pace yourself and your expectations. I enjoy the process while my wife ends up ready to strangle the foreman, contractor and whoever else slows it down near the end. I've learned that you've got to get away from it for awhile so we'll be on vacation the month of August trying not to think about it. Best of luck on your new house.
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MDNY.
Nope costing us the same. It was the builders mixup with the plans. They were drwn a little bigger. In his book, its more truble to redrow then just build it like it is.
JTD.
Nope this is my first time doing this. I hope to never do it agen. Things are a bit hetic. New house, selling old house, Mom-in-law just sold her house, new baby. All at the same time. Too meny plates spinning. I will be happy come winter, when everything is done.
MDNY.
Nope costing us the same. It was the builders mixup with the plans. They were drwn a little bigger. In his book, its more truble to redrow then just build it like it is.
JTD.
Nope this is my first time doing this. I hope to never do it agen. Things are a bit hetic. New house, selling old house, Mom-in-law just sold her house, new baby. All at the same time. Too meny plates spinning. I will be happy come winter, when everything is done.
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Paul, good to hear things are starting to move for you guys. As JTD said, it is a process full of peaks and valleys. The high spots are fun and sometimes hectic. We're getting through the lows by taking it all as part of the experience. In fact, we're already looking fondly back at all the cement mixers stuck during our foundation pour. Seemed pretty awful at the time, but it's quickly becoming a memory of the process.
Of course, that just means we get to focus on the next problem at hand which is currently how to handle a 750 foot driveway and get the most value out of our dollars.
My earlier weather predictions are slowly coming true. I had said we'd have a wet, cold spring which we did. Now that the roofers are up on top I said it would be hot and sunny. So far, so good. They are only working 'til about 10:00 every morning. Don't want to walk on the shingles when they're hot, too much risk for damage.
MDNY, I know what you mean about watching the weather. Not sure what I'm going to do when we move into our rental in two weeks, no more weather channel /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif
Paul, good to hear things are starting to move for you guys. As JTD said, it is a process full of peaks and valleys. The high spots are fun and sometimes hectic. We're getting through the lows by taking it all as part of the experience. In fact, we're already looking fondly back at all the cement mixers stuck during our foundation pour. Seemed pretty awful at the time, but it's quickly becoming a memory of the process.
Of course, that just means we get to focus on the next problem at hand which is currently how to handle a 750 foot driveway and get the most value out of our dollars.
My earlier weather predictions are slowly coming true. I had said we'd have a wet, cold spring which we did. Now that the roofers are up on top I said it would be hot and sunny. So far, so good. They are only working 'til about 10:00 every morning. Don't want to walk on the shingles when they're hot, too much risk for damage.
MDNY, I know what you mean about watching the weather. Not sure what I'm going to do when we move into our rental in two weeks, no more weather channel /w3tcompact/icons/sad.gif
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RobS,
I thought I had a long driveway at 300', but man at 750' you will be busy. The hard part for me is if I have to travel anywhere (seldom do) on business then the wife will be in trouble. She isn't a tractor operator type and will be too uncomfortable to operate it. But in time maybe she will.
I said I wasn't going out tonight (so I didn't bring the camera) but now I will. Since they are supposed to start settting the forms for the foundation walls I won't be too worried about pics. I have photo's in folders for each date I was there so I can look back at each phase.
Next is the video camera while they pour this week. Oh boy its really going to start costing me now.
Rob, Now internet at work. I keep checking the weather at work, home, get weather updates on my mobile each morning. Just obsessed about the weather.
RobS,
I thought I had a long driveway at 300', but man at 750' you will be busy. The hard part for me is if I have to travel anywhere (seldom do) on business then the wife will be in trouble. She isn't a tractor operator type and will be too uncomfortable to operate it. But in time maybe she will.
I said I wasn't going out tonight (so I didn't bring the camera) but now I will. Since they are supposed to start settting the forms for the foundation walls I won't be too worried about pics. I have photo's in folders for each date I was there so I can look back at each phase.
Next is the video camera while they pour this week. Oh boy its really going to start costing me now.
Rob, Now internet at work. I keep checking the weather at work, home, get weather updates on my mobile each morning. Just obsessed about the weather.
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Rob, Send some rain our way. We really need it. All of my foodplots are wilting. Still have 600 lbs soybeans and fieldpeas to plant but won't until we get a significant rain. I'll have to redisc the fields to get rid of the weeds (mostly maypops) which seem to be thriving despite lack of water.
Rob, Send some rain our way. We really need it. All of my foodplots are wilting. Still have 600 lbs soybeans and fieldpeas to plant but won't until we get a significant rain. I'll have to redisc the fields to get rid of the weeds (mostly maypops) which seem to be thriving despite lack of water.
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RobS
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JTD, you can have our rain if you need. I suppose, agriculturally speaking, we could use some but If we had another two dry days I think the roofers and masons will both be done.
Unfortunately though it's supposed to storm today and tomorrow. Sunny right now, I hope they're working /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
JTD, you can have our rain if you need. I suppose, agriculturally speaking, we could use some but If we had another two dry days I think the roofers and masons will both be done.
Unfortunately though it's supposed to storm today and tomorrow. Sunny right now, I hope they're working /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
MDNY
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RobS,
Thunderstorm tonight, rain early tomorrow, but sunny and nice in the afternoon and Thursday. If I am still on track then they pour the walls Thursday. From the pics I took tonight they are nearly done with the wall forms and should be going soon. But hey it's NY anything can go wrong with the weather.
RobS,
Thunderstorm tonight, rain early tomorrow, but sunny and nice in the afternoon and Thursday. If I am still on track then they pour the walls Thursday. From the pics I took tonight they are nearly done with the wall forms and should be going soon. But hey it's NY anything can go wrong with the weather.
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Looking very good MDNY! My fingers are crossed for your weather.
Are the forms going all the way up all the way around or is some a walkout/lookout? I like the stone under the slab. They don't do that around here though my parents house was built that way.
Keep those pics coming /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Looking very good MDNY! My fingers are crossed for your weather.
Are the forms going all the way up all the way around or is some a walkout/lookout? I like the stone under the slab. They don't do that around here though my parents house was built that way.
Keep those pics coming /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
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We definitely need the rain. Mixed feelings regarding timing since the crew is working quickly on the foundation walls. First pour on half the house foundation is tomorrow with the next pour schedule for Monday. I'm not certain if they'll pour the shop footings Monday. The garage footings will probably be poured late next week or the following week. They have to waterproof the house foundation, install the french drain and backfill around the house before they can dig & pour the garage. Hope they'll be finished before the 4th.
We definitely need the rain. Mixed feelings regarding timing since the crew is working quickly on the foundation walls. First pour on half the house foundation is tomorrow with the next pour schedule for Monday. I'm not certain if they'll pour the shop footings Monday. The garage footings will probably be poured late next week or the following week. They have to waterproof the house foundation, install the french drain and backfill around the house before they can dig & pour the garage. Hope they'll be finished before the 4th.
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