How is the virus affecting you?

[MikePA]

LoL...The unqualified abound...:laughing:

Yes they do, but still overshadowed by the people who think they are qualified, but are not. :laughing:

 

[pmsmechanic]

So this is something I observed today.

In spring I go around to the neighbors with my tractor and rototill gardens. Today was the first garden. Let me tell you, people are hungry for socialization. Very pregnant mom, (early June baby) three kids playing and dad showed up too and we just spent a good half hour after the rototilling visiting outside. We didn't stand close together. We just visited. It was awesome as I'm a social person myself.

So how is this going to affect me? Well I can see rototilling taking a lot more time this year.

 

[rswyan]

Yes they do, but still overshadowed by the people who think they are qualified, but are not. :laughing:

:thumbsup:

 

[California]

Wow. My comment above was after I read two_bit's reply to me a few pages back. Now I've read down to here and I see that exchange started a controversy.

Let's try this again: "How is the virus affecting you?"

I'll clarify: I want to know everything about the Santa Clara County early cases. My interest is deeply personal. My daughter and her husband live in that region.

Before the shutdown they rode mass transit every day in opposite directions up/down the Peninsula to their jobs at San Francisco and Palo Alto.

Presently they work from home, the top floor of a large condo complex where they can't avoid elevator buttons and door handles just to get to the street. They expect some of the condos in the complex are owned by overseas Chinese as investment property rather than housing because it not unusual to see unfamilar faces in the elevator, etc. Nobody knows if those new faces just flew in. Their home is a couple of miles from San Francisco Airport.

I'm worried about them.

 

[MikePA]

I'll clarify: I want to know everything about the Santa Clara County early cases.

Help me understand what you want to know that has not already been mentioned. The testing they did shows between 50x to 85x more people had been exposed to CV19, and developed CV19 antibodies, than was originally thought, which was 956 people.

 

[Citydude]

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[Citydude]

Wow. My comment above was after I read two_bit's reply to me a few pages back. Now I've read down to here and I see that exchange started a controversy.

Let's try this again: "How is the virus affecting you?"

I'll clarify: I want to know everything about the Santa Clara County early cases. My interest is deeply personal. My daughter and her husband live in that region.

Before the shutdown they rode mass transit every day in opposite directions up/down the Peninsula to their jobs at San Francisco and Palo Alto.

Presently they work from home, the top floor of a large condo complex where they can't avoid elevator buttons and door handles just to get to the street. They expect some of the condos in the complex are owned by overseas Chinese as investment property rather than housing because it not unusual to see unfamilar faces in the elevator, etc. Nobody knows if those new faces just flew in. Their home is a couple of miles from San Francisco Airport.

I'm worried about them.

Sorry your going through the unknown. I call my daughters. They know much more about the conditions than I can gather through the internet for their locations. One is in Denver the other in Taos NM.

 

[Jstpssng]

Wow. My comment above was after I read two_bit's reply to me a few pages back. Now I've read down to here and I see that exchange started a controversy.

Let's try this again: "How is the virus affecting you?"

I'll clarify: I want to know everything about the Santa Clara County early cases. My interest is deeply personal. My daughter and her husband live in that region.

Before the shutdown they rode mass transit every day in opposite directions up/down the Peninsula to their jobs at San Francisco and Palo Alto.

Presently they work from home, the top floor of a large condo complex where they can't avoid elevator buttons and door handles just to get to the street. They expect some of the condos in the complex are owned by overseas Chinese as investment property rather than housing because it not unusual to see unfamilar faces in the elevator, etc. Nobody knows if those new faces just flew in. Their home is a couple of miles from San Francisco Airport.

I'm worried about them.

It was two months ago. By all accounts there's an incubation period of a few days to two weeks. If they were going to have serious complications, it would have happened by now.

Edit: I'm on board with being cautious about opening the country back up until they figure out what is going on. A lot of people even in this state had bad colds lasting for several weeks, starting way back in January. Was it related? We don't really know. I feel that "they" are doing a great disservice by posting how many new cases are being diagnosed daily; the truth is that without more diligent testing, we really don't know how widespread the virus is.

 

[/pine]

Yes they do, but still overshadowed by the people who think they are qualified, but are not. :laughing:

LoL...The "unqualified" always give themselves away...often by making statements that prove they are ignorant as well...!

 

[Jstpssng]

:thumbsup:

I had to look up "Dunning Kruger" to fully appreciate your post. :thumbsup:

 

[hawkeye08]

I thought the point of the article was this person had CV19 well before anyone thought CV19 was a big issue. As of January 21, Fauci was saying, "This is not a major threat threat to the people in the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about." Link

It was being talked about as if the it was the first CV19 death (caused by).

 

[hawkeye08]

Help me understand what you want to know that has not already been mentioned. The testing they did shows between 50% to 85% more people had been exposed to CV19, and developed CV19 antibodies, than was originally thought, which was 956 people.

I'll have to go back and read it again, I thought it said between 50x and 85x (times, not percentage).. one article said the way they extrapolated the data that New York would have more cases than they have residents.

 

[California]

It was two months ago. By all accounts there's an incubation period of a few days to two weeks. If they were going to have serious complications, it would have happened by now.

My concern is a little different. I think daily, presently, they are at risk of new contact with virus.

Possibly on delivered groceries, doorhandles, breeze from the adjacent balcony, someone who walked ahead of them on the street without a mask, who knows?. Considering that they live in that urban region that is/was a hot spot, their daily risk may be greater than average to encounter whatever it was that infected people in the region who had 'no known contact'. Yes they are taking all the recommended precautions and are healthy.

 

[5030]

:thumbsup:

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Loaded, loose and pizz on the virus, let's party.....:laughing:

 

[rswyan]

I had to look up "Dunning Kruger" to fully appreciate your post. :thumbsup:

 

[Hay Dude]

Anyone think the medical science experts are overly cautious to the point of probable financial ruin and the business capitalists want to go back to work tomorrow probably increasing mortality and maybe the sweet spot is somewhere in between?

 

[MikePA]

I'll have to go back and read it again, I thought it said between 50x and 85x (times, not percentage).. one article said the way they extrapolated the data that New York would have more cases than they have residents.

You are correct, it was 50x to 85x. Link.

 

[California]

You are correct, it was 50x to 85x. Link.

Even that article was followed by other with researchers saying the methodology wasn't sufficiently rigid to rely on the conclusions declared.
In summary there are too many unknowns to know more at this time than 'this is really bad'.

Stanford coronavirus study triggers feud over methodology and motives

But after considering the study and then the criticism ...

Santa Clara County Executive Dr. Jeff Smith remains steadfast in his interpretation of the study痴 findings: It suggests that asymptomatic people spread the virus, and that more than 95% of the population remains susceptible to infection.

That all means that there is more risk than we initially were aware of

 

[MikePA]

Even that article was followed by other with researchers saying the methodology wasn't sufficiently rigid to rely on the conclusions declared.
In summary there are too many unknowns to know more at this time than 'this is really bad'.

Stanford coronavirus study triggers feud over methodology and motives

While 50x to 85x might be arguable, the fact, as documented via an autopsy result, that CV19 was present in Santa Clara county earlier than the experts originally thought is not.

 

[Diggin It]

Anyone think the medical science experts are overly cautious to the point of probable financial ruin and the business capitalists want to go back to work tomorrow probably increasing mortality and maybe the sweet spot is somewhere in between?

The truth is always there.