How to cut tree SWARMED with poisen ivy

   / How to cut tree SWARMED with poisen ivy #31  
One spring day when I was a kid my dad and I got rid of some poison oak growing on an old stables. This was back in 1969 when there was nothing available like RoundUp. Dad and I filled all the 'lard cans' we had with salt from the smokehouse salt box. I'm talking about 30 to 50 gallons of salt. Loaded all the salt in the pickup and drove over to the stables. We carefully chopped into the base of the vines where they entered the ground leaving the vine standing. Then we piled salt up around the vine over the wound. Salt was also spread an inch or two deep three or four feet around the vines. We took what salt was left and spread it on some clumps of Johnson Grass growing at the edge of the field. It was raining lightly as we did this and when we finished we got our shotguns out of the truck and went squirrel hunting (more on this later). The salt killed the vines and I guess made them brittle. Anyway I remember that Dad put on leather gloves that fall and easily pulled the vines off the old stables, poured gasoline on them, yes gasoline, and set them on fire. No more poison oak grew up from the roots. As a matter of fact nothing grew around that side of the stables for ten or twenty years after that. If you don't mind making the ground sterile for a few years give this a try before this fall.

Now for the rest of the story.

As I said above it was raining lightly while we took handfuls of salt and spread it on the ground around the poison oak. We went back to the pickup and wiped our hands off on some towels we had brought, got our shotguns, and went hunting. Dad had a double barrel, don't remember what brand, I had a single barrel, single shot Stevens. I don't remember if we had any luck hunting but I do remember getting my gun out the next week and noticing that the barrel had rusted quite a bit. I cleaned the gun and oiled it and thought nothing about it. Dad did not hunt any more that year. Now jump forward ten years or so. I am now married and my wife and I stop by to see my parents. Dad is at work but Mom is there and so is my older sister and her 14 year old son. He had brought his shotgun to go squirrel hunting and wanted me to go with him. I had no gun with me so he said get Granddads old double barrel. I got the gun and we walked out into the woods. After a while I saw a squirrel and shot it. We walked over to pick it up and I broke open the shotgun and reloaded the left barrel. When I closed it the gun fired. The shot hit a small tree that my nephew was leaning on. It missed his chest by less than a foot. He yelled and said what you doing you nearly shot me. Bark from the tree had stung his face and arm. I showed him that I didn't even have my hands near the trigger. The gun was broke open, reloaded, and closed. Nothing happened. Again broke open and closed. Nothing happened. Third time broke open and closed. The left barrel fired. Broke open, reloaded, and closed again. Both barrels fired.

I was tempted to throw the gun in a nearby pond but didn't. I took it home and told Mom to not let Dad get it out without telling him what had happened. He took it to a gunsmith the next day. The gunsmith said that the gun was coroded and rusted inside worse than anything he had ever seen, looked like somebody had poured it full of wet salt years ago.

Sorry to get off topic like this but nearly thirty years later I still wake up in the middle of the night with a nightmare about shooting my oldest sisters only child.

Thanks for listening.

R
 
   / How to cut tree SWARMED with poisen ivy #32  
This might sound silly but, buy a couple goats and chain them up by the tree. Apparently goats can eat PI with no ill effects. There is an old boy in my area who supplements his retirement by renting out his goats to clean up pasture land and clear poison ivy.
 
   / How to cut tree SWARMED with poisen ivy #33  
last week I had ot do some help for a old neibor he is 80 or so, anyhow his back patio is/was covered in PI and also covered in Sweedish Ivy as well. I used the old 12" brush/headge trimmers to cut it all into squares and along the house. (this stuff was last cut the year I got out of military '92 I think.) anyhow I pulled it out and rolled it up like old carpeting. I only put on a bit of hand cream/lotion on the arms & face used long sleeve shirt and after I was about 3/4 done I thought aobut some sort of breathing mask, A little late I might add. the dust was everywhere (it had already frosted but only lightly) took it all down to the farm and pulled the PI loose from the sweedish ivy. took the good stuff out and placed it into a patch of dirt iwhere I tore down an old lean too shead. figured it will start and grow so I can trans plant it to the front of the road where the weeds are so bad. it is pretty and will stay LOW height so no mowing will be needed and be a good ground cover.

anyhow I usually NEVER get much more than a single bump or two of PI this time was no different. untill 3 days later when I was moving the PI PILE (where I sorted the PI form the Sweedish Ivy) to the burn pit. I just figured heck with feching my long sleeved shirt and grabbed the stuff in arm loads... bad thing I did ther! I got JABBED 3 or 4 times by broken ends of the PI vines (some were 1/2" or beter in dia.) and the stuff had BLEEDED out on the ends so they were basically sap covered ends... the jabbing parts worked it in pretty good... and I didn't bother to wash up like i NORMALLY would as I was in a hurry. anyhow it is a week later and I STILL have a few bumps form it but still very livealb ecompaired to what my old woman would have looked like /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif only got it on the wrist/forearm where the jabbing took place. and a small line where it scratched down the arm as I walked.

it was burnt the other day with a pile of chestnut bushes & small branches that were cut form the old guys place as well. ya shouldn't burn the stuff but I did anyhow as it is best way to make sure it is dead. very little smoke as the pile was nice sized and very dry. also it was starting to RAIN so I HAD to get it fired up fast and that is part of reason I didn't get washed up. staied back a LONG WAY when it aws burning too... JUST IN CASE ya know. I don't ahve any close neibors to get into the smoke so I wasn't so worried about that...

anyhow just wanted to post more info about the zanfel stuff. we got it from drug store it was in behind counter cost 48 bucks with tax... (not for me but for old woman back a month or two ago when she got it, and it went crazy on her!) covered her arm side boobs and pelvis!) she didn't even go near the stuff but I THINK she got it from the MOWER and you can see where every spot she scratched spread it worse & worse! even the zanfel stuff didn't help much other than to relife the itch a bit... took her almost 3 weeks to finally stop blistering up. I told her now she better never mess around on me or else I have the best punishment in the world /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif (J/K of course! ) hahaha


mark M
 
   / How to cut tree SWARMED with poisen ivy
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Since this popped up again, maybe I'll try to take a picture of the tree now that I have a new digital camera /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

What I've done is sprayed the entire thing with roundup (just after this thread began) After everything died down, I took the backhoe (digs 15 1/2 feet deep, not sure how that translates into how HIGH it reaches) and scraped most all of it off. I scraped around the base of tree also so that I could try to remove all the roots that were above ground.

Although I have TVA permission (in writing) to remove the tree, it's still standing today as I type this. If I take the tree down, it'll probably be in at least another month or so to give all that stuff time to wither away even more. As I was scraping the backhoe bucket against tree raking all that off, the entire tree moved a bit. Not much, but enough to suggest to me that it's probably rotted out some in the middle which makes me that much more nervous.

Not only nervous for sake of dropping it on my head, but doing all of that and having rotten firewood after the tree is felled. So, I talked to Mr. TVA and he told me that after tree is down (and btw, I do NOT 'have" to take it down, it's my choice)... anyway, after it's down, if all the wood is crappy, he said I didn't have to bother "cleaning it up", but they might appreciate it if I just pushed it all out of the way a bit.

I'll try to get a pic... in fact, if camera is working, I'll be back in just a minute

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Here tis. I took several, but this one seemed to come out best. On left side ground, you can see a pile of stuff. (next to phone company box/pole)

That is some of the poisen ivy vines that I pushed over there after they'd died off.
 

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moss? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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