HydrauLink- a self-contained air over hydraulic top link

[djradz]

After seeing the video, I can assure you the "cusion" effect of the HydrauLink is not enough to take the place of a floating top link in the case of bush hogging. You will still need to use your floating mechanism. While the floating top link mechanism (I say mechanism because some use a chain instead of the factory float) is in use, there is probably not enough force on the HydrauLink to cause it is "cusion".

I'm not real sure what purpose the "cusion" serves. It isn't enough to really do anything.

Yes, I agree that the cushion effect is not adequate to take the place of a floating top link. I did not mean to imply that. Instead, what I was saying is that folks were claiming the need for a rigid connection (apparently in all cases) and I was arguing that such is often not necessary or maybe even desireable. The floating top link was just one example of such a case/

Even with a floating top link however, like the small one on my RFM, it sometimes is bottomed/topped-out and so a little cushion (and thus more flexibility) would still be advantageous.

 

[CBW1999]

Interesting concept. Defiantly has some place for some users.
Like any implement, part or modification- it may work for some and not others, each of us has to research and experiment to find the most appropriate set up for our needs.

One thing I am not clear on- how can anyone "assure" that something will or will not work based on viewing a video or reading a product description. I am fairly confident that many hours were spent on R/D on this product before being marketed. Not sure anyone can make such a definitive statement like that.

I appreciate the educated information provided by TBN members. Unfortunate at times when some embark on what appears to be a personal crusade.........

 

[lilranch2001]

Interesting concept. Defiantly has some place for some users.
Like any implement, part or modification- it may work for some and not others, each of us has to research and experiment to find the most appropriate set up for our needs.

One thing I am not clear on- how can anyone "assure" that something will or will not work based on viewing a video or reading a product description. I am fairly confident that many hours were spent on R/D on this product before being marketed. Not sure anyone can make such a definitive statement like that.

I appreciate the educated information provided by TBN members. Unfortunate at times when some embark on what appears to be a personal crusade.........

Amen Brother!
Very well stated, wish I had made such a wel conceived post such as yours

:thumbsup:

 

[Reg]

Interesting concept. Defiantly has some place for some users.
Like any implement, part or modification- it may work for some and not others, each of us has to research and experiment to find the most appropriate set up for our needs.

One thing I am not clear on- how can anyone "assure" that something will or will not work based on viewing a video or reading a product description. I am fairly confident that many hours were spent on R/D on this product before being marketed. Not sure anyone can make such a definitive statement like that.

I appreciate the educated information provided by TBN members. Unfortunate at times when some embark on what appears to be a personal crusade.........

"Defiantly" ? Hmmmm.

It is POSSIBLE to evaluate many things quite superficially and form opinions on how well they work, how exaggerated the ad copy claims probably are, etc.
Patent office employees do it, venture capitalists do it, engineering managers do it, purchasing managers do it.
MANY OF US have to do it to protect our employers, our businesses, our jobs.
If nobody did it there would be even more junk produced, even more companies producing crap and rapidly going out of business.

Now, can I interest you in my new and improved perpetual motion machine ?
This one is DIFFERENT, it really will work.
How about cold fusion ?
or my "clean up the spill" device ?
Ahh, but you think I am being frivolous - maybe, maybe not.

 

[lilranch2001]

"Defiantly" ? Hmmmm.

It is POSSIBLE to evaluate many things quite superficially and form opinions on how well they work, how exaggerated the ad copy claims probably are, etc.
Patent office employees do it, venture capitalists do it, engineering managers do it, purchasing managers do it.
MANY OF US have to do it to protect our employers, our businesses, our jobs.
If nobody did it there would be even more junk produced, even more companies producing crap and rapidly going out of business.

Now, can I interest you in my new and improved perpetual motion machine ?
This one is DIFFERENT, it really will work.
How about cold fusion ?
or my "clean up the spill" device ?
Ahh, but you think I am being frivolous - maybe, maybe not.

Last I knew We had not started spell checking other members on TBN.......

That being said, how do you account for not one person who has purchased one of these units complaining that they did not like it or that it did not perform to the level that the vendor has claimed it would.

I swear some of you guys are worse than (Im sorry gals) little old ladies

 

[Reg]

Last I knew We had not started spell checking other members on TBN.......

That being said, how do you account for not one person who has purchased one of these units complaining that they did not like it or that it did not perform to the level that the vendor has claimed it would.

I swear some of you guys are worse than (Im sorry gals) little old ladies

It isn't about spell checking, it is about communicating CLEARLY using the intended words - or not.

WRT your other "point" (if it is one).
I don't have to "account for" no complaints.
I haven't seen the data on how many TBN readers have in fact bought them, or how many are suffering buyers remorse (to the point of shame) and aren't coming forward.
IOW - no data.

Yeah, I didn't understand your need for sexism or age'ism either - mayhap you could work on that ?
(-:

 

[lilranch2001]

It isn't about spell checking, it is about communicating CLEARLY using the intended words - or not.

WRT your other "point" (if it is one).
I don't have to "account for" no complaints.
I haven't seen the data on how many TBN readers have in fact bought them, or how many are suffering buyers remorse (to the point of shame) and aren't coming forward.
IOW - no data.

Yeah, I didn't understand your need for sexism or age'ism either - mayhap you could work on that ?
(-:

I guesss if you did not get the analogy, mayhaps you arent as smart as you think you are..... Just a thought

 

[pitt_md]

It isn't about spell checking, it is about communicating CLEARLY using the intended words - or not.

WRT your other "point" (if it is one).
I don't have to "account for" no complaints.
I haven't seen the data on how many TBN readers have in fact bought them, or how many are suffering buyers remorse (to the point of shame) and aren't coming forward.
IOW - no data.

Yeah, I didn't understand your need for sexism or age'ism either - mayhap you could work on that ?
(-:

I'm not talking about this product but in general I'm pretty sure that there is a unspoken rule here that if you don't like/had a bad experience with something you bought your not supposed to say anything because it might damage the company's image.

 

[Willl]

unspoken rule here

They could write a book. :shocked:

 

[CBW1999]

Ooops.... So I made an error.
If that is what you need to open up a reply to someones statement then...well..I'm taking my toys and going home!!!

Give me a break. If you have something intelligent to say, say it. I have known many people who are very intelligent and skilled in mechanics- that cannot read or write. No need to bring spelling or grammar into these discussions.

Communication is not based on exact spelling. The brain processes the information based on only part of the written word and interprets what word it is. There is a very interesting paragraph written incorrectly that demonstrates this.

As for the unwritten rule, I believe the intent is for members to leave specific names of dealers off the forum when complaining- to prevent civil liability and such.

Seems like some personal crusades extend beyond the forum...

 

[tungularafishcamp]

Wow what a thread!!

So anybody else have one that has some input??
Rick

 

[tsteahr]

Wow what a thread!!

So anybody else have one that has some input??
Rick

I bought one earlier this summer to use with my SCUT. I don't have rear remotes and the cost of adding them is quite high, so this adjustable link seemed interesting. My priority of jobs changed and I did not get a chance to use it much. I did spend about 45 minutes grading out a rough, undulating area with my box blade.

My first impression is that it is a well made, solid unit. It is quite heavy, solid construction. Welds are good.

When I hooked it up and lifted box blade for the first time I was surprised the cylinder extended about 1.5 inch. The rearof the blade does not get lifted up quite as high as with a regular top link. I was really skeptical as soon as I put in on.

I need to say I am very much a novice with the box blade. I only have perhaps 10 hours total performing excavation with the BB and a fixed link.

In using the hydraulink for about 45 minutes I found it was easier for me to smooth out a rough area. When the front of the tractor would drop into a low spot, the extension of the link would help keep the box from pitching up and dumping the contents. I do feel it was easier and quicker to smooth out a rough area with the link.

Next year I will get more time with the hydraulink and I reserve final judgement till then. My first impression is positive however.

 

[jake98]

I'm not talking about this product but in general I'm pretty sure that there is a unspoken rule here that if you don't like/had a bad experience with something you bought your not supposed to say anything because it might damage the company's image.

Is there an unspoken rule about not saying something complicates a simple adjustable screw link? I have my doubts if a real hydraulic top-link is that much of an advantage. You guys are just plain lazy.

 

[kennyd]

Is there an unspoken rule about not saying something complicates a simple adjustable screw link? I have my doubts if a real hydraulic top-link is that much of an advantage. You guys are just plain lazy.

So why do you have a grapple? Why not just get of the tractor and pick stuff up?

 

[beenthere]

...... I have my doubts if a real hydraulic top-link is that much of an advantage. ........

If you had a need for one, you wouldn't have any doubts.
I use mine often, and do things with it that my mechanical link wouldn't do for me.

And...yes, I'm lazy.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Is there an unspoken rule about not saying something complicates a simple adjustable screw link? I have my doubts if a real hydraulic top-link is that much of an advantage. You guys are just plain lazy.

Jake98, I don't know if your being sarcastic or not. If you use your box blade much at all you ought to get one and you will see just how much you would use it. Without a hydraulic top link, I would say that a person makes less than 1 in 50 adjustments that you would make if you have a hydraulic top link.

 

[jake98]

I was kinda halfway just tryin to get a rise outta you guys. I'm still pretty new to 3 point attachments. I would think a side-link would be first on the list tho, no?

 

[kennyd]

I would think a side-link would be first on the list tho, no?

Not usually. But it really depends on how you use your machine. Most of those with HTL's do NOT have HSL's.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I was kinda halfway just tryin to get a rise outta you guys. I'm still pretty new to 3 point attachments. I would think a side-link would be first on the list tho, no?

My friend, you have got to be THE first person to agree with me on that one.:thumbsup: When I bought my 3215, there is only one OEM rear remote available. I got it and my hydraulic side link was the first of my "TnT", not the top link as most everyone else gets. Now that may be because of the type of box blade that I have. (rollover) If I had a std type of box blade, I might have gone for the top link first though.:confused2: A top link sure has an effect on how and what type of grading that you are doing with a std type of BB.

 

[jake98]

My friend, you have got to be THE first person to agree with me on that one.:QUOTE]

See, I know what I'm talking about even when I don't know what I'm talking about. Side link would be more important, from what I've experienced. To be able to change the grade from what the tires are on seems like half the job. Top-link just adjusts the 'bite' agressiveness (boxblade), that seems to only need two adjustments, one to start and another to finish, but the angle is in need of changing often.