I hate thieves!!!

   / I hate thieves!!! #51  
I live in an area with one of the best economies in the nation. We were not affected by the Clinton Recession of 2000 and have continued to grow. Last year, we had six murders. Unfortunately, drug use is up and as a result, rural crime is also up.

Eddie
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #52  
CurlyDave said:
Suppose any one of us ever does have a confrontation with a thief/burglar/bad guy/lunatic/ whatever and for some reason, which may be perfectly justifiable, the intruder ends up dead, or even injured.

Dave,

Here in Texas, and from what I understand, a few other states, it's legal to kill sombody who is trying to enter your home. There is some question about them being on your land, and when it's legal to shoot them out side your home.

Here's a quote from our Govener.
Texas Governor Rick Perry - Press Release - March 27, 2007

"Mar. 27, 2007

Gov. Perry Signs Law Allowing Texans to Protect Themselves
SB 378 Permits Texans to Use Deadly Force in Self Defense

AUSTIN Gov. Rick Perry today signed into law Senate Bill 378, extending Texans rights to use deadly force for means of self-defense, without retreat, in their home, vehicle or workplace. The law takes effect Sept. 1, 2007.

典he right to defend oneself from an imminent act of harm should not only be clearly defined in Texas law, but is intuitive to human nature, said Gov. Perry. 典oday, I am proud to sign the Castle Law which allows Texans to not only protect themselves from criminals, but to receive the protection of state law when circumstances dictate that they use deadly force.

的 thank Senator Jeff Wentworth, Representative Joe Driver and the Texas Legislature for their dedication to ensuring Texans rights to self-defense.

In 1995, the Texas Legislature created an exception to a 1973 statute, which required a person to retreat in the face of a criminal attack. The exception allowed a person to use force without retreat when an intruder unlawfully entered their home. Senate Bill 378 extends a person痴 right to stand their ground beyond the home to vehicles and workplaces, allowing the reasonable use of deadly force when an intruder is:

Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes;
Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place; or
Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.
The law also provides civil immunity for a person who lawfully uses deadly force in the above circumstances. The use of deadly force is not lawful when it is used to provoke or if a crime other than a Class C misdemeanor is committed by the victim."


Eddie
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #53  
dieselgeek said:
the problem of theft is worse because of Democrats? seriously, that is the stupidest thing I've ever read on this site. Come on man. this is not a political thing.
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I never meant that they have anything to do with the problem of theivery being worse. But they certainly have a lot to do with our laws being so liberal and stacked in the favor of criminals as being almost impossible to use.

I stand by that. Having worked with the Conn State Police regarding 3 robberies in the last four years and seeing how there hands are tied by our lawmakers you just can't change my opinion. Facts are facts.

Andy
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #54  
dixie306 said:
think about what you just posted, it is the dems to blame, who appointed liberal judges to the benches and passed laws protecting the law breakers?, yes, it is a political thing


The problem is that I *do* think. And I still stand by what I said. This is a morals and values problem. Redneck thinking and partisan crap is responsible for a LOT more problems in this country than theft.

There's a guy on here with a sig that reads something like "kids who fish, trap and hunt don't steal or do drugs" and I think he's onto something.

Not all democrats are the picture in your head, and not all republicans are levelheaded either. let's drop the stupid stuff,

-scott
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #55  
jcims said:
My brother works for AT&T and he said that the number of times phone and electric(!) is cut is amazing.
Cut power lines are not easy to stop, but often you can do something about telco. Under ground line fixes: 1. Disconnect wires at service box, slip conduit over line and into ground, small box on top and all wire thru wall to inside. 2. Build a box covering cable and service box. 3. Plant bush in front. The basic idea is to hide the service box
Note: 1. tele voltage around 50 volts DC idle, maybe 5 or 6 when in use and around 100 AC when ringing. Ring voltage will wake you up but not harm you.
2.Most new service boxes have a phone jack inside. Plug a phone into the jack and you are connected to phone company lines and house is disconnected. If you are having a problem with phones this will help you prove problem in house or with phone co. Also ANYONE else can plug in and use your phone service including long distance!
Hope this helps someone.
2.
Overhead lines aren't really fixable. But you might be able to move service box inside at higher point.
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #56  
When I want to steal something, I will wear a white shirt with a tie... can't touch me!

mark
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #57  
dieselgeek said:
Not all democrats are the picture in your head, and not all republicans are levelheaded either. let's drop the stupid stuff,

-scott

I agree with that, but have you ever had over $25,000 worth of tools taken, know who did it, have had multiple people tell you who they sold them to and the state police have not been able to do anything because of the laws on the books. Are you willing to send me $25,000 to support your position. So how do I get my money back. Not with the politicians we have who support the crooks position over the victims.

Andy
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #58  
I worked with a guy that caught a crook in his living room at 3am holding his TV. He is a CC permit holder, small arms instructor and was in fact holding a 45 ACP aimed at said crook. He told the guy to put down the TV and leave. The crook threw the TV at him and charged. He fired at 15'. Guy stumbled back and charged again. Fired again at 10'. (aiming for the 2nd from top shirt button area). Guy stumbled back and charged for a 3rd time. Fired between the eyes at 5'.

He called the cops and then his lawyer. He was taken in by the cops, all his guns ammo, etc was taken by the cops. He was under threat of prosecution until toxicolligy came back showing PCP in the crooks system. He was let off.

He was later sued by the crooks wife for loss of income etc. Had the case dismissed ($20k later) after his lawyer showed the only income stream was from criminal activity. Lawyer told him he was lucky the crook didn't have a day job or he would have been paying. Nice.

jb
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #59  
I agree with AndyMa. I live in eastern CT. Our laws have been written to protect the criminal and his/her rights and nothing to aid the victim. It's enough to want to raid the receivers of stolen goods and take your stuff back, by force if necessary. If you travel to Hartford and don't carry a legal, permitted sidearm, with a CCW permit, you are taking your life in your hands. This, in the state capitol, where you'd expect safety.

Hartford's North End has become a free fire zone. Firearms laws apparently don't apply here. Gangs, drug dealers and other crazies who could not care less about laws run rampant in this neighborhood.

Prosecutors are to willing to bargain down firearms violations, rather than
prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law. And yes, Connecticut has historically a Democrat controlled state.

Bill
 
   / I hate thieves!!! #60  
I hate the thought of this going political, but it seems that in high concentration areas with the worse crime rates, it's a Democrat area. I'm from the Oakland CA area. When we were there a few weeks ago, they had over 80 murders so far this year!!!!!

Look at the cities and states with the highest crime and murder rates and you have a liberal government. Even in very conservative states, there are liberal areas that have all the bad crime.

I wonder if it's the policy that leads to these areas, or if these areas create the policy? At one time about 30 years ago, Oakland was a very nice, very safe city. Then they started building project homes and the middle class started moving out. It got so bad that the mall closed down along with most of the shopping centers. Now the grocery stores in suround cities are closeing down, or just too unsafe to shop at. When I lived there, we drove past three grocery stores to shop at a safe one. We drove an hour to the valley to shop at the safe mall.

I had a professor in college tell me it was because of the middle class moving out that created the vacume for the criminals to take over. He said that if they had stayed, then the crime rate would be similar to other middle class cities. I think the middle class left because the crime rate started to increase due to the poor income housing projects.

I hope I didn't cross the line here.

Eddie
 

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