If you're causcasian you're in big trouble

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wroughtn_harv,
you are absolutely right.

i am sure they have that software capability already! i know we had english-japanese conversion softerware when i was going to school over there....they are life savers!
 
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I will ask that everyone stay calm and polite about the tipic, and not resort to personal insults. So long as the discussion remains mature, there's no problem with it. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Personal insults will be removed. /w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif
 
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The issue isn't just the immigration laws or lack there of...it's...I don't know what. A lack of common sense, ethics?As long as there are government officials like Tom Dash-hole being the self imposed tin god who overrules our constitution without any objections, then we're in for self destruction. Dash-hole is a U.S. Senator from the Dakotas...I didn't see him on the Pennsylvania electoral selection. Next, forget about stopping for a burger and fries;
A December 2001 report from former surgeon general David Satcher, a Clinton appointee. The report calls obesity "an epidemic" costing $117 billion in health-care costs and lost wages and uncritically accepts as fact the figure that obesity kills 300,000 people a year, despite an editorial in the New England Journal of Medicine saying that figure is "by no means well established" and is "derived from weak or incomplete data."

To compound this, the IRS in April classified obesity as a "disease" for deduction of medical expenses.
"Basically, the state of New York or California could say, 'We've spent so many hundreds of zillions of dollars every year on heart attacks, we estimate that 38 percent of that is caused by obesity,' and then we can take 38 percent of that total cost," Banzhaf explained. "How could such a thing be possible? The best answer is by using the same strategy we used with regard to tobacco."

Right now what some call the professional health nannies are in high gear demonizing fatty and junk food the same way tobacco was demonized. Longtime self-styled consumer activist and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader asserted in the New York Times Magazine in June that "McDonald's double cheeseburgers [are] a weapon of mass destruction." Pop singer Moby recently said on HBO's Dennis Miller Live that "all the lawsuits" will force fast-food restaurants to become totally vegetarian in 25 years. In 1998 Kelly Brownell, director of Yale University's Center for Eating and Weight Disorders, told the Boston Herald, "There is no difference between Ronald McDonald and Joe Camel. … We need to start thinking about this in a more militant way

Just as cigarettes were subjected to "sin" taxes, Brownell has proposed massive new taxes on what he considers to be "bad" foods. The boola-boola fat-checker told U.S. News and World Report in 1998, "Hit junk-food junkies where it hurts: in their wallets" by "slapping high-fat, low-nutrition foods with a substantial government 'sin' tax."

Another group getting into the act is the Washington-based Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), called the "food police" by critics for its dire warnings about dishes such as fettuccine alfredo, which the group dubbed "heart attack on a plate." Margo Wootan, CSPI's director of nutrition policy, recently said on CNN's Inside Politics that "health advocates are looking at tobacco as a model." CSPI also proposes sin taxes on snack foods, soft drinks, candy and gum and a ban on advertising fast food on any TV program commonly seen by children.
Banzhaf, a professor of law at George Washington University who mounted some of the first lawsuits against tobacco companies in the 1960s and was instrumental in getting smoking banned in most public places.
 
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I am for an inclusive America where new comers accept our traditions and then contribute their own character to the mix. The problem now is that some new comers are not accepting and not contributing--just using.
Most of the people who come here now, just as in the past, seek a better life for themselves and their loved ones--that is an American tradition--our first tradition and our proudest. For the ones who come here be they black, brown, Islamic or eastern Europeon or whatever as long as they roll up their sleeves and go to work and make a better life for themselves and contribute to the nation as GOOD citizens I welcome them.
At some point and I am not wise enough to say we will have to limit immigration simply because we have not unlimited room.
As to the Beuracratic States of Amerika it is time for everyone to just say NO, no to PC, no to lawyers, no to the unelected beuracrats, no to the whako left (and right) wing weirdos and no to the enviro natzis.
JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to big government and yes to states rights and local self determination and if it takes an internal revolution (peaceful and lawful) so be it. I hope it does not come to another Civil War but we will win this time if it does /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif --just had to throw that in there, y'all. J
 
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This is a subject that won't be resolved on TBN but it needs discussed.

Time to hang a sign on the Statue "full up".

I really don't have a problem with immigration so long as they contribute to the society. If you come here do it legally and learn the language. At least try. Don't come here to be a burden on our Health care, Welfare and our Social Security System.

Maybe a stint in the Military should be a requirement however it's bad enough we educate our later enemies so it may not be a good idea to train our later enemies in the Military.

As I type I realize I don't know the answers to the problem but as bad it is and as bad it's always going to get this is still the greatest place to be living.

It's just too bad our Country has become the "fools of the world" when it comes to hand outs.

And, I can remember as a kid the signs "get the US out of the UN".... nuff said... I am getting upset...... Tom
 
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I have a lot of respect for our current president and I'm sure glad he's at the helm right now. However, I don't know how he stands on this issue. Does anyone know? He seems to be real intimate with Mexico (I heard he has a Hispanic brother in law, don't know if it's true though), which is good unless he's going to be lax on this issue.
 
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I know the Mexican president was pushing him for more openess on the border..and President Bush balked at the idea.
 
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<font color=blue>heard he has a Hispanic brother in law</font color=blue>

Danny, isn't it his brother, Jeb, who's married to an Hispanic wife and their son (President Bush's nephew) campaigned for President Bush?
 
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What has happened to the U.S. since 1900? Here in South Louisiana around that time, many families spoke only French, Creole or French-Acadian (Cajun). When they sent their kids off to public school guess what? Only English was allowed to be spoken, as it was the official language of our Nation. Children were actually punished for speaking French while on school grounds and could be expelled for failure to learn English. Well, those children learned English. They wanted to learn it and their parents wanted them to learn it.

As a result, there are no dual English / French public services today in Louisiana. A national common language goal and mandate worked back then, it could work now. Just needs to be championed by the right people for the right reasons. One Nation united needs one common language... That’s my opinion.
 
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There are some things that will just get the grin generator going. Little kids with a water hose on a hot day, puppys discovering their sibling's tails, stuff like that.

Another one is thinking about what other folks are really saying. You know, taking their words, thinking about them and what they mean, and reading between the lines.

You take this official language thing. I guess the absolutely most hilarious thing about the issue is that the very folks who want laws making english the official language are the very ones complaining about government in business. We should let market rule rules crowd.

Now think about that for a minute. On the one hand they're saying we don't need government in business because the market rule rules theory revolves around the efficient business will succeed and the corrupt business will finally fail.

But when it comes to something as personal as language it has to be a law because market rule rules won't work.....but it's supposed to work in business?????

When you stop and think about all the advantages of knowing the common language and the disadvantages of not knowing it. Heck, it's a no brainer. The only one's losing is the ones who are too stubborn to learn. So we're gonna make laws and that's gonna stop them from being stubborn, right.

We've had millions and millions of perfectly happy citizens that never became fluent in english. Their lives were rich. Some of them raised children whom we are now giving credit for helping us out during WWII with their ability to speak english and their native tongue.

The only ones that are hurt by not speaking english are the ones not speaking english. But it appears for some folks that isn't enough. They want to bring down the full force of the law to make sure that those who don't speak english are really punished. Like they aren't punished enough.

I guess what I really like about this discussion is the concept of us that must be forming in the minds of the children and grand children of the nonenglish speakers of just what us Americans are really like. I mean there they are with the people they love living their dream and they get to see up front and personal just what the American dream entails.

You hear folks complaining about all the mexicans sending their money home. But what about all their money staying here?

Have you stopped and wondered what happens to the fifteen percent FICA? They pay for it. But it goes into your account. Have you ever heard on the television about all those folks entitled to an income tax return that never ask for it back?

One of the reasons the politicos only pay lip service, fruedian slip I admit, to reform on immigration is they understand a couple of things. The first is if all those immigrants were to apply and get their income tax returns then we'd be hit hard, real hard. At their income levels it's a hundred percent return.

Two, they know locking down the borders and removing the immigrants would throw us back into the dark ages. We'd be like Russia selling military secrets to the highest bidder just to generate some federal income.

The one thing that been a surprise to the know it alls is how the housing construction sector has survived so well during the debacles of 9-11 and corporate fraud. The construction boom has been maintained because the workers and the materials have been available along with low interest rates. You run the immigrants out and the one strong sector of our economy falls on it's face. After all the factories that supply the materials depend upon cheaper labor that works hard. That isn't home grown. The same thing goes for labor in building homes.

I wish those so emphatically wanting to close the borders and go back to the good old days would do so in their minds for just a minute or two. Look around their neighborhood and consider all the jobs that depend upon trade with other nations. Think about what it would be like to depend exclusively upon what's generated in the area. Imagine eliminating the Walmart and all the stores that sell the imports. Just walk through the house and price the things and where they come from and what they'd costs if they came without the made in anywhere but here tag.

If we attempted to lock down the borders then the other countries would do the same. And we would be facing that above scenario. It wouldn't be pretty. But we could put a flag on each and every piece.
 
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