Thanks Turbys. I bet you liked them partially because they weren't too noisy. That's good... and good mileage too. most of my trips are unloaded realistically. Although in total mileage to and from moving the trailer is all highway miles and will rack up the most mileage overall. I'm retired, and will not hustle with this truck. does anyone have the more aggressive tread pattern rear tires on their dually? Are you glad you do? Wish you hadn't? Now I have Firestone Destination AT's on my suburban, a pretty open tread pattern, and they rumble a bit with a small amount of whine at low speeds. But huge traction that totally diminishes any small noise issue. I just want to avoid a LARGE noise issue. I know better not to run monster mudders or whatever, but basically, can I run an E rated relatively quiet on/off road tread back there? terry, just read your post, thank you. hmmm, glad I remembered the cabin trip, been doing this for 40 plus years, every year, to a friend's mountain cabin. One mile up the side of a mountain in the NY Catskills on a decent grass path/road that is often seriously crowned. Though I want to haul my Kubota up there and fix that crown...now there's a couple great days of playing in the dirt... I wouldn't haul a trailer to the top, can park at bottom of one mile all natural driveway, luckily a nice parking spot there where I can unload UTV's, whatever, and the tractor. But unloaded, I want to get up that hill in everything but snow. It's wide enough, but some mud, small rocks, and one part a short but serious up hill climb right before the cabin, where it all levels out and has a turnaround. My best friend bought the place right out of college for very little, and has kept it until now we are both retired and can go up there and not worry about racing back on Sunday afternoon in the awful traffic. So that's why I'm thinking I might need more grip than a highway pattern. I only use the minimum rpm needed but without at least some mini lugs in there, once those tires start to spin, might as well just stop and back up. And try again... But I would like to get to the top comfortably, and while the UTV isn't bad, we usually leave everything down below and go up and check on the cabin first. Make sure there isn't a bear in there,(his name is Bob, for real...) or it hasn't burned down...something that would mean we wish we hadn't unpacked yet. And you know how many straps one has to undo... sorry for being longwinded, but this would be an only truck for me. so it has to do it all...