JIC vs. SAE substitution

[wdchyd]

Picker,
you lost me again. Are you looking for a SAE ORB female swivel connected to an SAE ORB male? if so that would be a rare fitting. If you are looking for SAE ORB male to JIC 37 degree female swivel they are plentiful Parker F650X.

As far as brazing fitting fittings. A large portion of tees and elbows used today are all brazed fittings. Just need to socket braze them and not try a butt style braze.

good luck

Roy

This is what I understood from the beginning, ORB swivel??.....the fittings can be TIG welded but that adds more to the costs.....the only female ORB we stock is the ports that get welded to the cyl barrel....Not as a loose fitting...

 

[wdchyd]

Finally, something I can understand about hydraulics... I'm planning to "plumb" a spool with fittings, my future looks bleek...

It doesn't have to be "Bleek".....just bring what you have to the guys that have good inventory and work it out with them....if no/go then try the next guy....If it's installed on the equipment it's better for the hose/fitting guys to fitup properly.....

 

[teg]

It doesn't have to be "Bleek".....just bring what you have to the guys that have good inventory and work it out with them....if no/go then try the next guy....If it's installed on the equipment it's better for the hose/fitting guys to fitup properly.....

I bought a bunch of extra fittings and what not's... I have a plan and my fingers cross. If I bring it to someone, I will not learn it... I want to know about hydraulics...

I have to say that I would read these threads over and over and it would not sink in... even after I realized what's going on... I'm still very easily confused.

 

[wdchyd]

Teg,

It's not hard to figure out hydraulics in general once you understand it.....as far as plumbing issues some guys that work on hyd equipment cannot plumb worth a darn, they don't have a eye for it...Yea it'll work, but looks goofy.....doesn't mean they are no good at hydraulics, just the plumbing task.....Plumbing components in tight quarters always is a challenge.....the closer the conections=the harder it is to fit up.....

Also the more adapters you use means more potential for leaks....

I guess it's like anything you do (hydraulics, woodworking, welding,electrical, machining....ect) you should be able to envision your project before you start.....This potentially eliminates trouble from the get go.....

Remember: the 7 P's Rule

Prior Particular Planning Prevents Pi$$ Poor Performance....:thumbsup:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Picker, did you get a different cylinder than what you started out with? I thought that you had a 1 1/2" dia cylinder? :confused3:

In case I decide I can't live with the approx 1" per hour leak-down on my new side link. I think it will be ok for box blading because I'm usually floating the box blade anyway, don't know yet if I'll want to put up with it when the brush hog is on there. Fortunately, the brush hog isn't used much since I got a big ZTR, I much prefer mowing with that.

I'm not sure why this is happening, but it is. SCV's are brand new and hard piped by the dealer, and shouldn't be leaking down like that IMO. Could be the new cylinder, I suppose. I used a 1.5"x6" for the HSL, and a 2"x11" for the HTL. Of course the top link has a DPOCV so it stays exactly where I put it.

It's a personal thing, I guess. I just hate droopy hydraulics. I thought it might be sucking air somewhere, but it's dry as a bone under pressure, and we're only talking a set of QC's, two 36" hoses, and a cylinder in the entire loop. Any kind of leak should be obvious.

P.S. Don't say it, MVR. I already know your opinion of DPOCV on side links. :laughing:

 

[SpudHauler]

Picker77, did you see this post? would any of their arrangements help your setup?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/hydraulics/185755-position-hydraulic-hoses-top-link.html

 

[picker77]

Picker, did you get a different cylinder than what you started out with? I thought that you had a 1 1/2" dia cylinder? :confused3:

Oops. I mislabeled the cylinder, it IS a 1.5.

 

[picker77]

Picker77, did you see this post? would any of their arrangements help your setup?

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/hydraulics/185755-position-hydraulic-hoses-top-link.html

Yeah, Spud, I remember seeing that but didn't have it bookmarked. Thanks. If nothing else works out I can use something like that for a fallback position, but this DPOCV is a lot smaller than that one (although not quite as small as the ones used by CCM), so I was hoping to squeeeeeeze this puppy in there somehow if I can, using only connectors and no tubing. From the git go I was shooting for a clean and compact install. Still don't know if I'll get there or not.

I probably could also use this 6" stroke 1.5" cyl for something else and get a different cylinder with a longer body, which would make a much easier fit-up--but I had this one on hand so I'm being stubborn. Besides, I already butchered the rod on this one by putting a nice custom-fitted clevis on it, so I'd have to come up with a new use for it.

Funny thing is, this side link cylinder works great just like it is, I just didn't like the way it leaked down after sitting still a while, which is what sent me off down this yellow brick DPOCV road. Maybe the grass isn't greener over there after all, and Murphy is teaching me another little lesson. :laughing:

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Yeah, Spud, I remember seeing that but didn't have it bookmarked. Thanks. If nothing else works out I can use something like that for a fallback position, but this DPOCV is a lot smaller than that one (although not quite as small as the ones used by CCM), so I was hoping to squeeeeeeze this puppy in there somehow if I can, using only connectors and no tubing. From the git go I was shooting for a clean and compact install. Still don't know if I'll get there or not.

I probably could also use this 6" stroke 1.5" cyl for something else and get a different cylinder with a longer body, which would make a much easier fit-up--but I had this one on hand so I'm being stubborn. Besides, I already butchered the rod on this one by putting a nice custom-fitted clevis on it, so I'd have to come up with a new use for it.

Funny thing is, this side link cylinder works great just like it is, I just didn't like the way it leaked down after sitting still a while, which is what sent me off down this yellow brick DPOCV road. Maybe the grass isn't greener over there after all, and Murphy is teaching me another little lesson. :laughing:

Small, compact, hard to get much cleaner than this. And you know that if you had gone with a 2" cylinder, your leak down would have been even less noticeable.:mur:

Just giving you a hard time. :laughing:

 

[picker77]

No problem, MVR. It's water off a duck's back for somebody who's had Murphy for a daily companion and trusted personal advisor for over 50 years! :laughing:

Besides, since I retired, projects like this one keep me out in the shop, and more importantly out of my wife's hair in the house. We both like it that way.

My other current busy-work project is fabricating a mount for a new bucket thumb. In fact I'm taking it down today to get several 7/8" holes drilled (the mount, not the bucket), don't want to abuse my little 1/2" Delta floor mount drill press with big holes in thick steel. Next in line will be a mount so I can swap the thumb between the bucket and forks, and after that I've been sketching up an idea for a pair of shark-fin root rippers that fit under the forks. Oh, and it's time to check the sights on my deer rifle and get my ground blind ready. Need to make some more knives, too. Also shown is an old 1935 Walker-Turner 12" bandsaw I rescued from a defunct butcher shop and rebuilt a while back, all cast iron, they definitely don't make them like this any more. And a homebrew belt grinder for knife-making. I was never this busy when I worked for a living!

Like many retired guys, a bad day in my shop is 400% better than the best day I ever had at work. :thumbsup: