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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Great progress Jim
Great progress Jim
Jim's Pole Barn Project - hopefully
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Farwell
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Re: Jim\'s Pole Barn Project - hopefully
Jim,
It sure is a great feeling once you get the floor poured isn't it? I remember it well when I had mine done. Something for you to think about and something I am doing to my 30x40 pole barn, I am running horizontal 2x4's (guess they are called perlins) all around the inside of the wall just like the ones that the siding is fastened to, giving me a little over a 6 inch space to run all my wire and anything else I want inside of the wall. I am going to put 7/16 OSB laid horizontal around the lower portion of the wall and 1/2 inch sheetrock on the upper part of the wall, leaving me with a 24 inch space at the top my 10 foot wall to blow in insulation. I haven't priced the insulation yet but it shouldn't be too expensive. It is probably insulation over kill but I would rather pay the insulation company instead of the utility company. Give it a thought before you start loading up the building, something I did not do and really am regreting because I now have to move everything around to get at the walls.
Your project makes me want to have another building built.
Farwell
Jim,
It sure is a great feeling once you get the floor poured isn't it? I remember it well when I had mine done. Something for you to think about and something I am doing to my 30x40 pole barn, I am running horizontal 2x4's (guess they are called perlins) all around the inside of the wall just like the ones that the siding is fastened to, giving me a little over a 6 inch space to run all my wire and anything else I want inside of the wall. I am going to put 7/16 OSB laid horizontal around the lower portion of the wall and 1/2 inch sheetrock on the upper part of the wall, leaving me with a 24 inch space at the top my 10 foot wall to blow in insulation. I haven't priced the insulation yet but it shouldn't be too expensive. It is probably insulation over kill but I would rather pay the insulation company instead of the utility company. Give it a thought before you start loading up the building, something I did not do and really am regreting because I now have to move everything around to get at the walls.
Your project makes me want to have another building built.
Farwell
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jwstewar
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I was actually planning on framing as normal, fiberglass insulation, and then drywall. Hadn't really thought about just using internal purlins though. Guess I could do that. That would give me about an 8" (5" for the pole, 1 1/2"exterior purlins, and 1 1/2" interior purlins) of air space. Pretty decent insulation air. First thing I want to do though is the ceiling. That is where I'll lose the most because of the ridge vents. Unfortunately, I'm so tight on space, things will be moving in for me to have to work around. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I was actually planning on framing as normal, fiberglass insulation, and then drywall. Hadn't really thought about just using internal purlins though. Guess I could do that. That would give me about an 8" (5" for the pole, 1 1/2"exterior purlins, and 1 1/2" interior purlins) of air space. Pretty decent insulation air. First thing I want to do though is the ceiling. That is where I'll lose the most because of the ridge vents. Unfortunately, I'm so tight on space, things will be moving in for me to have to work around. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Farwell
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Rent a sheet rock lift when you do the ceiling, it is the only way to go. You will spend a little money for it, but you can get the job done fast, safely, accurately and with very little pain. Plus you can do the job by yourself. I blew in 14 inches of insulation in my attic. During the colder part of Winter my heater comes on about once an hour and keeps the building at 47 degrees.
On the purlins inside, the wall material goes up nicely as well.
Farwell
Rent a sheet rock lift when you do the ceiling, it is the only way to go. You will spend a little money for it, but you can get the job done fast, safely, accurately and with very little pain. Plus you can do the job by yourself. I blew in 14 inches of insulation in my attic. During the colder part of Winter my heater comes on about once an hour and keeps the building at 47 degrees.
On the purlins inside, the wall material goes up nicely as well.
Farwell
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jwstewar
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Time for some more updates. Really seems like this thing has taken shape in the last few weeks or so. If you remeber this picture Original Door Aprons you will remember that I was only going to have a 2X9 apron at each door. Well after the one cement guy and my wife got involved (not with each other /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif) this is what turned out. Ended up using 4.5 yards of concrete.
Time for some more updates. Really seems like this thing has taken shape in the last few weeks or so. If you remeber this picture Original Door Aprons you will remember that I was only going to have a 2X9 apron at each door. Well after the one cement guy and my wife got involved (not with each other /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif) this is what turned out. Ended up using 4.5 yards of concrete.
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Here is a shot of wrapping around to the man door. Two things I realized I had messed up on when I did this. I didn't think about the ground rod for the electric (did you catch that Jerry? We'll have to figure something out) and then the walked only ended up being 45" wide instead of 48." No matter how many times I squared it up and measured it. Just as we were pouring a figured out why. The side form was supposed to be 10'4". I only had a 10' board. I put it in and then the wife changed my plans. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif and I forgot to go back and put the 4" extension on. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Really won't hurt anything, but did have me scratching my head for a day or so.
Here is a shot of wrapping around to the man door. Two things I realized I had messed up on when I did this. I didn't think about the ground rod for the electric (did you catch that Jerry? We'll have to figure something out) and then the walked only ended up being 45" wide instead of 48." No matter how many times I squared it up and measured it. Just as we were pouring a figured out why. The side form was supposed to be 10'4". I only had a 10' board. I put it in and then the wife changed my plans. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif and I forgot to go back and put the 4" extension on. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif Really won't hurt anything, but did have me scratching my head for a day or so.
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I told the mason to order 4.5 yards of cement for the front and the tractor door. The front took every bit of the 4.5 yards except for maybe a quart (or however you would measure it). Wasn't going to pay for a truck to bring half a yard. I told him I would just mix it and pour it myself. Unfortunately, when I went to do it, my used $50 cement mixer died (guess I know why it was so cheap. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif) so I ended up just mixing it in a wheel barrow. Don't think it turned out too bad. I hauled a ton of limestone and 1 bag of Portland. Had a bag of Portland and mason on hand.
I told the mason to order 4.5 yards of cement for the front and the tractor door. The front took every bit of the 4.5 yards except for maybe a quart (or however you would measure it). Wasn't going to pay for a truck to bring half a yard. I told him I would just mix it and pour it myself. Unfortunately, when I went to do it, my used $50 cement mixer died (guess I know why it was so cheap. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif) so I ended up just mixing it in a wheel barrow. Don't think it turned out too bad. I hauled a ton of limestone and 1 bag of Portland. Had a bag of Portland and mason on hand.
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Here is the Wayne Dalton 9600 door that we purchased for the tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I really like how this door went up. The new ones are a breeze to tension. Put a 7/16" socket on a cordless drill and off you go. No metal pipes to whack you in the head or to slip and no springs to form a sling-shot.
Here is the Wayne Dalton 9600 door that we purchased for the tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I really like how this door went up. The new ones are a breeze to tension. Put a 7/16" socket on a cordless drill and off you go. No metal pipes to whack you in the head or to slip and no springs to form a sling-shot.
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With the limestone that was left from the tractor apron I was able to place it in front of the cement in the front and form a little bit of an approach to be able to get the tractor, truck, and Trailblazer in and out of at least one door.
With the limestone that was left from the tractor apron I was able to place it in front of the cement in the front and form a little bit of an approach to be able to get the tractor, truck, and Trailblazer in and out of at least one door.
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Since we spent some extra money on the cement in front (about $600 w/ the additional labor) and the extra money for the 1" foam board under the concrete. It might be a couple of weeks before we have more limestone hauled in to cover the crushed pavement that I have down for a base.
Since we spent some extra money on the cement in front (about $600 w/ the additional labor) and the extra money for the 1" foam board under the concrete. It might be a couple of weeks before we have more limestone hauled in to cover the crushed pavement that I have down for a base.
