Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

[WinterDeere]

Marketplace has loads of cars that can be functional but the airbag/transmission/emission/computer gremlins have doomed it because of $$$

True, but this isn't any indication cars are becoming less reliable. The market has always been full of cars that need a repair to get them back on the road.

Exactly why I am not a fan of automatic trannys.

With you there, brother!

I want to be able to limp it back home no matter what AND repair it myself.

Mixed bag. The complexity that makes DIY repair more of a challenge, is at least somewhat wrapped up in the advances that have made these vehicles more reliable. I'm not sure you can easily separate one from the other.

 

[Hay Dude]

My parents turned out to be right about everything they ever told me.

Maybe you’re the lucky one.
Lots of parents took drugs in the 60’s -90’s, smoked like chimneys and drank martinis after work everyday.
What a great example.

But if we keep it to trucks and I listened to my dad, I’d be driving a vinyl seat Ford with a small gas V-8.

I’d rather walk.

 

[ultrarunner]

pre-early 80s was not better

Still getting those with a flat tire being late for work… either finding tire flat or on the way… some drive 60 miles or more one way…

 

[jjeff]

Problaby a ai hoax and Definitely not avery basic truck but still interesting to me anyway. New 2025 Mack Pickup Truck – Attrective Look, High- Tech Features Powerful Engine and Smart Technology, Mileage, & Price You Need to Know - Step Sandstride Sky

 

[WinterDeere]

Still getting those with a flat tire being late for work… either finding tire flat or on the way… some drive 60 miles or more one way…

This is highly-dependent on where you live. Around here, I've had only one flat tire in the last 32 years. But last time I was on Long Beach Island NJ, I had two flats within the same week!

The reason? Construction. I don't know if we can blame it on their crews being more busy or more sloppy, but it's probably some combination of the two.

 

[jjeff]

Probably considered pretty basic these days although not a pick up persay they do exist remember a neighbor had one called it a "Ford suburban" at the time. 1995 Ford Centurion C-350 7.3L Power Stroke

 

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Problaby a ai hoax and Definitely not avery basic truck but still interesting to me anyway. New 2025 Mack Pickup Truck – Attrective Look, High- Tech Features Powerful Engine and Smart Technology, Mileage, & Price You Need to Know - Step Sandstride Sky

yeah idk why you think it's AI

 

[jjeff]

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yeah idk why you think it's AI

Or a John Deere pickup truck

 

[ultrarunner]

This is highly-dependent on where you live. Around here, I've had only one flat tire in the last 32 years. But last time I was on Long Beach Island NJ, I had two flats within the same week!

The reason? Construction. I don't know if we can blame it on their crews being more busy or more sloppy, but it's probably some combination of the two.

Having good tires goes a long way to reducing flats…

But some are sidewall damage which can happen even with new LT tires…

 

[WinterDeere]

Probably AI in the above post, but there are many legitimate pickups (runabouts) made by Euro manufacturers, that we just don't see here in the states. See the Mercedes X-class for just one of many examples.

 

[ultrarunner]

Probably considered pretty basic these days although not a pick up persay they do exist remember a neighbor had one called it a "Ford suburban" at the time. 1995 Ford Centurion C-350 7.3L Power Stroke

Ford then came out with the Excursion…

 

[jjeff]

Neighbors definitely wasn't an excursion I assume he went to Ford cuz he didn't want the old GMC 6.2 diesel I think they used back then in suburbans. . Next ai will hoax me with stories of plain jane 4x4 Toyota manual transmission diesel hiluxes coming to the US market .

 

[ultrarunner]

Excursion 1999 to 2005

Neighbor bought a new 7.3 diesel and said must trouble free tow vehicle he has ever owned and he towed for a living…

Had several more powerful tow vehicles since but only the 7.3 had zero issues…

 

[jjeff]

This was the early 90s 8th generation f series if I remember correctly which I may or may not lol. Anyways pretty sure it wasn't the turbo 7.3 everyone talks very highly of, even today.

 

[ultrarunner]

No turbo… I used it towing over a 1000 miles and much in the mountains…

Excellent cruising… not a jack rabbit…

All of the later trucks had superior acceleration and creature comforts but each one had issues including total breakdowns… all 100% under warranty… one, almost 3 months at the dealer to repair…

Something to be said for simple reliable get the job done mechanicals… which ties to the theme of this thread…

 

[paulsharvey]

You know what's funny; watching what the cool, classic car/truck is. When I was in HS (class of 2001), early 1980s step side Chevy; Z28 Camaro, El Camino ect was the cool thing. Before that, not that I cared, it was 1960s stuff; now, you're a high school boy and want to get the girls; 2003-2006 Cat Eye Silverado. Give it another few years; what's it going to be? Probably not a 2008-2015 Silverado. We gonna have everyone screaming for Ram 1500 Classic on FB Market? Will it be Chargers, with cars making the late 20-teens comeback?

 

[ultrarunner]

Many choose cars from their youth that were unaffordable at the time…

Brass Era, Classics of the 30’s, early muscle of the 50’s, pony cars of the 60’s with the HP race…

 

[paulsharvey]

Man, if you had a Scotsdale K10, with some 33" Wild Countries, you were the man in HS, or an IROC Camaro

 

[Hay Dude]

Excursion 1999 to 2005

Neighbor bought a new 7.3 diesel and said must trouble free tow vehicle he has ever owned and he towed for a living…

Had several more powerful tow vehicles since but only the 7.3 had zero issues…

It’s because they had no DEF, DPF and no cooled EGR.

Cooled EGR’s are a disaster, and most don’t know they were mandatory after YM 2004.5

 

[WinterDeere]

Will it be Chargers, with cars making the late 20-teens comeback?

It's hard or even painful to think that might not be the case. The late 20-teens are without any doubt the true "golden era" of muscle cars, between the SRT cars (Challenger & Charger Hellcats), the 1000 HP Corvettes, and the inexpensive but amazingly fast Mustang GT350's.

The question is, do kids born after 2010 even care? Sure, an SRT Hellcat cars might be the pinacle of American muscle performance to anyone up thru Gen-X, but my 16 year old only talks about Tesla and FSD.