Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard?

   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard?
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#31  
If you considered a more common size, like what I and most 18 wheelers run down the road ... A 295/75R22.5 ... There are many more choices and generally better prices ...
That is interesting, but I don't know if there are any implications or potential issues from changing an 80R tire size to a 75R tire size?

I looked at the tires in the link, and noticed the weight rating of most were about 800# less load per tire. Times 8 tires, thats over 6,000# if I read that right.

The existing 80R's have something I am not familiar with-- a different weight rating whether used as singles or duals.

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   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard? #32  
Most all tires of this size have a separate rating for single or duals ...

Here is mine ...

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At 6600 Lbs per tire in a dual set up ...is 26,400 Lbs per axle ... Most axles are only rated for 20,000 Lbs, and a tandem axle group with duals (8 tires) is only rated for 34,000 Lbs going down the road, unless you axles are spec'd higher, AND you pay for an overweight permit ...
 
   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard? #33  
That is interesting, but I don't know if there are any implications or potential issues from changing an 80R tire size to a 75R tire size?

I looked at the tires in the link, and noticed the weight rating of most were about 800# less load per tire. Times 8 tires, thats over 6,000# if I read that right.

The existing 80R's have something I am not familiar with-- a different weight rating whether used as singles or duals.

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Going from a 75R to an 80R changes the aspect ratio (tire height to width as a percentage). So the tire would be 11.25mm taller in an 80, from the axle to the ground and from the axle to mudguards, etc. on the RV. The 80 will be stiffer, which translates to a stiffer ride and and more vibration.

FWIW: I have been told by tire dealers that the 225/75R tires are an RV tire, optimized for low road noise and vibration absorption.🤷‍♂️

From personal experience, I can say that visiting a scale, and spending time with the particular tire chart for the tires you buy will make a difference in ride, and noise, if you match the inflation to the actual load. On one RV that we had the steers were at the absolute highest recommended pressure for the tires to meet the load, and the duals were at the lowest recommended pressure for just the RV. Adding a trailer, enabled one to add additional pressure if needed to take the added load. (Up to another 7k on the rears). Yes, 225/75Rs. That's a YMWV item.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard? #34  
This is a good discussion and offers some education for all of us. I am not any kind of expert, but I have tried to learn enough to be safe and responsible when it comes to tires.

In the end, this is a judgement call, based on lots of factors, but we are responsible for consequences. I have lots of tires on different kinds of equipment on the farm. Do we "repurpose" old tires for use on our wagons? Of course we do, and many tires are cracked (not really a good measure of dependability by the way), balding, and 10-20 years old. But they don't really go off the farm...

An old Chevy dual wheel truck has tires with plenty of tread, but I only trust it to go on very short trips locally. Mechanically sound, but I don't allow anyone to drive it but me. Because I do know what might happen. A risk, but I accept it and prepare for it.

Folks, I have had tires correctly sized/rated with plenty of tread, less than 5 years old, self-destruct at highway speeds. Results are impressive - steel channel bed supports bent and twisted from impact and pieces of shrapnel flying everywhere. I have helped repair trailers where a tire let go and a steel radial "whip" destroyed lots of stuff...lots.

So when my one-ton Duramax leaves this farm with a heavy load behind it, it rides on the best Michelin tires I can put on it, properly inflated, and never more than 5 years old.

Why, when I could go cheaper? Well, put yourself in the pilot's seat: ambient temps are 95+ degrees and you're adding to the tire's temps at road speed with load and friction. You're heading down the road, cup of coffee next to you, good music...and a tire blows/delaminates. Now, picture in oncoming traffic an SUV coming toward you with your wife, or children, or grandchildren in it. Best way I can put it.
 
   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard?
  • Thread Starter
#35  
I may have a solution on how to repurpose my old tires and get some more use out of them.

My F-800 dump/scissor lift truck never leaves the ranch. Offroad use only. It uses 11-22.5 tires and they are in poor condition.

After a little research, it looks like I could put my former 295/80R tires on in place, and call it good? Plus I would have 2 as spares.

btw there is plenty of clearance around all the tires that could accommodate a difference in tire size.

Can anyone who has done it confirm the 205/80R-22.5 tires would fit on a rim that currently holds 11-22.5?
 
   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard?
  • Thread Starter
#36  
Found this comparison ... looks like an acceptable substitution. The F-800 is off road only, 10mph tops, so I'm tempted.

A lot of work swapping all the tires around, but the price of new tires includes haul away of old-- so I might as well have the worst ones hauled away ...

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   / Tires look brand new, but are 11 years old. Keep or discard? #37  
So how do you plan to dismount/remount 11 year old tires if the claim is being made that nobody will touch 11 year old tires?
I say this knowing my tire dealer will happily dismount and mount them, but I don’t know about yours.

But I think that swap plan you have is an excellent idea.
 

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