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Iplayfarmer
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I don't see anything in the future for an alarm system. But now that you mention it, I would like to put in a doorbell. Maybe two doorbells... one for the house and one for the salon.
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I don't see anything in the future for an alarm system. But now that you mention it, I would like to put in a doorbell. Maybe two doorbells... one for the house and one for the salon.
dave1949
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Seems like a separate salon doorbell would be handy for sure.
I've always seen the transformers installed near the service panel, then low voltage from there to the bell/buzzer.
Maybe an intercomm from the salon into the house proper?
If you have a sump pump or similar, a high water detection alarm could be useful in a basement. There are also 'wet floor' alarms that go off when the floor gets a little water standing on it. I have seen those used under raised floors in computer centers.
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radioman
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12 gauge wiresounds like a plan for most things in the home. Use the same ethernet cable for your phone wires. One for network and other for phone. just make sure you label which is which !!! Just an afterthought here- do you really need phone wires ? Nowadays it cheap to get those wireless phones. same with doorbells, you can get them wireless and its much simpler to do. need need to get them and figure out where to put the power source for easy of setup.
Have you looked around your home and see if you need a 3 way wire switch setup somewhere or future project ? Might wanna get that in just in case. I think you got everything covered.
Have you looked around your home and see if you need a 3 way wire switch setup somewhere or future project ? Might wanna get that in just in case. I think you got everything covered.
dcyrilc
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I use different colors for phone and internet.
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Iplayfarmer
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Is there a cable that has enough wires for phone and ethernet?
I've used ethernet cable for phone before. If I had a cable that could handle both, I'd run it anywhere I might need or want either and then be done with it.
Also, feel free to chime in with recommendations about ethernet cable... Cat 5, Cat 5e, Cat 6? I went to look up prices and saw that I'm way underinformed when it comes to cables.
I've used ethernet cable for phone before. If I had a cable that could handle both, I'd run it anywhere I might need or want either and then be done with it.
Also, feel free to chime in with recommendations about ethernet cable... Cat 5, Cat 5e, Cat 6? I went to look up prices and saw that I'm way underinformed when it comes to cables.
dcyrilc
Elite Member
At work they use cat5 jacks for both and patch and plug the proper one for what they're using.
Myself, I run Cat5e.
radioman
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You can use cat 6 cables with cat 5e standard rj45 connectors. The cable is thicker and bit harder to work with. cat 6 is basically for higher speeds and transmission but you MUST use cat 6 complaint connectors or there is no sense of doing it. cat 6 is backward compatible with 5e, 5. Cat 6 is not standard in homes yet, but is becoming standard in the workplace.
If you have money to spend, and want to stay in the home for rest ofyour life, go with cat 6 wire and connectors. otherwise cat 5e is all you need for next 5-10 years until something else comes along.
DO NOT use phone and network combined into one cable jacket. toooooo much noise. you will hear interfernece in the phone.
If you have money to spend, and want to stay in the home for rest ofyour life, go with cat 6 wire and connectors. otherwise cat 5e is all you need for next 5-10 years until something else comes along.
DO NOT use phone and network combined into one cable jacket. toooooo much noise. you will hear interfernece in the phone.
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If you are finishing the ceiling and are planning on living here for a while, think about running some 3/4" or 1" conduit from the breaker box (or an unfinished area) to the corners of the basement and some 2" conduit from the basement to the attic (if you have access). It will make adding an extra circuit, another cable TV run or something much more painless a few years down the road.
Aaron Z
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If you're running CAT5, run 2 or even 3 cables where ever you'd normally run 1. This is what I do in the network installs I do. Most clients give me a blank look until I explain the cost of adding new drops after the fact.
The cable is cheap enough these days that it barely changes the quote on a job. On the other hand, when I get a call to come in & terminate one of these extra lines I make about 4 times the pay for my time
A neat little anecdote:
Last year I installed a network of 60 drops in an office during construction. Nice, easy job. Took me about 4 days start to finish. A few months ago, the client decided to switch over to a new IP-phone system. They called someone else for a quote. Then they called me.
I switched out the single jack wall plates for duals, stuffed a second block in the rack and terminated the second line in each drop. They paid me the same amount as the original install. I was on site for 8 hours.
Moral of the story: Run the wires while it's open & save a lot of stress later.
Oh ya... Stick with CAT5e. it's about 1/6th the price of CAT6 and you're not going to use CAT6 capabilities in a home network unless you're a super-geek like me...:laughing:
The cable is cheap enough these days that it barely changes the quote on a job. On the other hand, when I get a call to come in & terminate one of these extra lines I make about 4 times the pay for my time
A neat little anecdote:
Last year I installed a network of 60 drops in an office during construction. Nice, easy job. Took me about 4 days start to finish. A few months ago, the client decided to switch over to a new IP-phone system. They called someone else for a quote. Then they called me.
I switched out the single jack wall plates for duals, stuffed a second block in the rack and terminated the second line in each drop. They paid me the same amount as the original install. I was on site for 8 hours.
Moral of the story: Run the wires while it's open & save a lot of stress later.
Oh ya... Stick with CAT5e. it's about 1/6th the price of CAT6 and you're not going to use CAT6 capabilities in a home network unless you're a super-geek like me...:laughing:
Treemonkey1000
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Why not think light years ahead and run a fiber optic cable:laughing: Just kidding that last guy sounds like he knows his stuff. We use fiber optic links into our Laboratory here to minimize noise for RF testing. Then that is brought out to Cat5e for the equipment or computers that don't have fiber optic terminations.