LEMONS!

[mjncad]

My Montana was white too. Suppose the color had anything to do with it?

Did it peel like GM & Chrysler white has a tendency to do?

 

[JoelD]

All lemons peel! :laughing:

Good one.

 

[mjncad]

All lemons peel! :laughing:

+1

 

[SixHoeBob]

Thirteen pages and no one mentioned Erskine snow blowers. Bought a new 1845C hi-flow with Erskine 2418 hi-flow blower. You can't move a 6 foot wide path of snow up through whatever diameter the spout was. Bought the 7' snow bucket and unloaded the blower at auction. Bought a used 555 NH that came with a hardly used 1812 standard flow blower. Had to take the blower as part of the package, I figured the value of the blower as being zero. The owner was vague when I asked if it worked. I already knew the answer, so I didn't grill him.
Unloaded that one at auction too. Bought the 7' snow bucket. Bought a used 885 NH with Hi- flow. Turns out the original owner bought the machine about the same time as I bought the 1845C. He just missed the big snow, so he never used the 2418 hi-flow that he order with the 885. Once again I placed the blower value at zero. The blower was never used but had a few rust spots. I sanded and painted the spots so it looked presentable. You guessed it, unloaded it at auction just before the first snow. Bought the 8' snow bucket.

Conclusions;

*Sell the Erskine blowers at auction with snow on the horizon

*1700lb Rated operating cap. skid loader perfect for 1 cu. yd. snow bucket

*2200lb Rated operating cap. skid loader perfect for 1.25 cyd. snow bucket

*Erskine blowers are pretty.......useless. Although they are expensive.

 

[wildwillie]

LEMONS, it's weird. We bought a Pinto with a blown timing belt for almost no $ way back when. Installed a new belt and drove that thing till we were sick of it.It was silly, That thing wouldn't die so we ended up giving it to a needy friend. Of course it had the ford fix for the gas tank [A plastic sheet] It was quality Junk :laughing:

 

[pitt_md]

One thing I've learned over the years is that no manufacturer has a monopoly on lemons-- they ALL make 'em once in a while (some more than others, of course).

I had a 1980 Honda Civic wagon... I mean, a HONDA! We had to have a hole in the floor replaced after only 4 years, and I tend to maintain my cars well.... After the third --yes, the third-- head gasket blew I towed it to the dealer, found a Colt Vista 4WD, and just said, "Where do I sign?"

On the other hand, my 1972 Chevy Blazer lasted me thirty years....

I had a friend that was a mechanic for Mersedes Benz. Told me a story about a flagship model that everyone that knew about it thought it was cursed or something. Of course the story starts out with the dealership forgetting to put oil back in the car after its first service. Owner drove off to have the car stop about ten miles away. nothing was ever right again.

 

[cdaigle430]

87 S10 Blazer, blown rear axle, head gasket, rebuilt transmission, broken leaf springs, wheels just kept breaking off, odometor kept making grinding noises, replaced 2 CV joints, 2 manifloid gaskets, water pump, 3 battery's, one alternator at 60k, 3 sets of ball joints, two radiatorsm muffler and when I got finally got rid of the POS, the rear tire mount bracket was cracked from the main body. The dealerhips I dealt with were morons, and the biggest bunch of a-holes ever put on the face of the earth.

Wasn't my only GM lemon, had several others like a Chevy POS Barretta.

I had some issues with my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee but at least the dealerships were a lot better to work with.

 

[crashz]

I see a lot of S10 complaints here, but I have a different opinion on those:

In college I had an 89 S15 GMC Jimmy. Other than a couple starters (misplaced heat shield) and a gas tank, we got approximately 225K miles out of that little bugger. I miss that little truck. I gave it to my brother, who left it in a field for a few years. It started to rust out, so it really wasn't worth keeping.

We did have the digital dash go out at 80K miles though. It would disappear for a few years, then magically re-appear. Always held the correct mileage though.

And even though I'm still fond of GM, year of my life have been stripped away from me by those d@mn 6.2L diesels! I'm on my third (the 1987 GMC 1 ton in my avatar) and at the first sign of trouble, I'm yanking it out and stuffing Cummins 6bt in there.

 

[ultrarunner]

I had a 91 with the 4.3 V6... sold it a couple of years ago with 39,000 miles... just didn't drive it enough... had enough power to pull but felt it was to light in the rear for what I needed to tow.

I did have instrument cluster problems and eventually added after market temp and oil pressure gauges and set the odometer for fuel fill-ups since the gas gauge was not always reliable... my year had lots of cluster problems...

I kept the 91 Silverado styleside with 5.7 and it pulls very well for what I need and gets almost the same or slightly better fuel mileage than the S10 when comparing both not hauling anything... even though they were the same year, they had very different fuel injection systems.

 

[am122]

LEMONS, it's weird. We bought a Pinto with a blown timing belt for almost no $ way back when. Installed a new belt and drove that thing till we were sick of it.It was silly, That thing wouldn't die so we ended up giving it to a needy friend. Of course it had the ford fix for the gas tank [A plastic sheet] It was quality Junk :laughing:

Bought a Pinto new in 1973 for $2227.00 wife totaled the car in 1975 Insurance paid me
$2200.00 and the car had 90,000 miles on it. Yes it had the plastic sheet fix for the gas
tank.
What other car can you drive for two years and loose $27.00 in value?
And the plastic sheet fix was the only recall.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Thirteen pages and no one mentioned Erskine snow blowers. Bought a new 1845C hi-flow with Erskine 2418 hi-flow blower.

Just an FYI, its likly there is nothing wrong with the blower, its the configeration your using. Skid steer snow blowers need enough flow to spin fast, its possible that the high flow blower needed more flow than your high flow machine was pushing. Its usually best to opt for a standard flow blower on a high flow machine.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

Ok maybe it was just me that had bad luck with Mazda's I had maybe a 1980 RX3 or something to that effect a very nice looking car with only about 40K miles. That thing woud just die driving along. The weirdest thing. I would get under the hood and wiggle things which didn't make much difference. Start it up and drive away. It scared the snot out of me when it did it in the middle of an intersection. The car was approprately lemon yellow. Then I had a 1988 Mazda van that had about 80K I bought used. I found paper work in it showing a rebuilt tranny.. Hmmm well that should be ok! Wrong! The tranny went out on me so I had it rebuilt for about $1800.. Ok well it should be ok now! Wrong! That went out less than a year later.. Still under warranty.. Someone did me a favor by rear ending me on the freeway and totaling it out.:confused2:

 

[Lumberjack1903]

And even though I'm still fond of GM, year of my life have been stripped away from me by those d@mn 6.2L diesels! I'm on my third (the 1987 GMC 1 ton in my avatar) and at the first sign of trouble, I'm yanking it out and stuffing Cummins 6bt in there.

That is a sweet ol' Tank you got there. 6BT would be awesome

 

[drroadster]

Bought new TYM 603 cab with loader may 2011. 28 hours on the meter and few months later in august 2011 the motor seized... I had to pay dealer to pick it up 4 weeks ago. Haven't heard a peep from them since. I am having attorney write letter to manufacturer asking for refund. Will update as things progress.

 

[Treemonkey1000]

Drr did the selling shop do a walk around with you on delivery to check all of the fluids and give you some time to learn the machine? Just curious if that would be a get out of jail free card for them?

 

[Dr_Zinj]

So you held a grudge from 1983-2010. 27 years. Man, I'd hate to be on your bad side. :laughing:

Yar, he's a lot like I am I guess. At least it's a character flaw I'm aware fo.

Reminds me of Queen Elizabeth Winton out of David Weber's Honor Harrington series. Described as holding a grudge until it died, then had it stuffed so she could continue to look and glare at it whenever she wanted.

 

[zonta223]

Have really only had problems with 2 brand name products.
One was a Mazda Van. Did 90,000 miles in it. Went through 3 sets of universal joints, 4 sets of brake pads, a gearbox, 3 cam shaft drive belts and numerous other things. Luckily for me it became an insurance wright off.

Number Two was a John Deere "Greene Machine" line trimmer.
sent the wife down to buy a stihl one when I was away from home.....and the dealer talked her into the John Deere model........Never ever ran right......over 3 years cost me more than its original price in repairs....became famous in our household as the "Dear machine"............spent more time in the repair shop than at work.....At the end of 3 years the dealers told me that they could no longer get parts for it............Think I cleared the warehouse stocks out with my one machine lol

 

[Builder]

Speaking of lemons, I heard GM made so many lemons they are in the process of trying to get the government to put up funding for a new juice factory!

My GM truck is the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned! :thumbsup:
Anything BUT a lemon.

 

[Builder]

I see a lot of S10 complaints here, but I have a different opinion on those:

In college I had an 89 S15 GMC Jimmy. Other than a couple starters (misplaced heat shield) and a gas tank, we got approximately 225K miles out of that little bugger. I miss that little truck. I gave it to my brother, who left it in a field for a few years. It started to rust out, so it really wasn't worth keeping.

We did have the digital dash go out at 80K miles though. It would disappear for a few years, then magically re-appear. Always held the correct mileage though.

And even though I'm still fond of GM, year of my life have been stripped away from me by those d@mn 6.2L diesels! I'm on my third (the 1987 GMC 1 ton in my avatar) and at the first sign of trouble, I'm yanking it out and stuffing Cummins 6bt in there.

I think there's a lot of folks doing that :laughing:

fordcummins.com - Increase Horsepower with Ford Cummins Diesel conversion kits

 

[Builder]

I wish I could say the same about my 2002 Montana

I hear ya. Wife and I had a Ford windbag minivan that lifted heads after ~60K miles. Right after warranty expired.
However, I'm not scorned enough to say that Fords are all lemons. You can get a bad one from any brand. Best to sell and move on if it's not a keeper.