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</font><font color="blueclass=small">( I am currently using a Kubota L2650 which I believe is at about 23.5HP..I think I am close. I like the size of the tractor(it is on loan). I want something that I can manuever in the smallest amout of space possible like a small barn. FYI: I am using the tractor to assist a 1000lb horse up with a sling I had built..and the horse can help himself by sitting up like a dog but needs help getting his rear up..then he is perfectly happy ..runs off and kicks and plays(for those who might express opinions not related to my post such as quality of life). So, I actually don't know how much load I am using but this tractor does well. Just looking for more lift if it is eventually needed. I also have small acreage that I use the tractor to flip compost piles, etc and mowing capabilities..so.. I want to minmize the tractor while maximizing the load capacity. )</font>

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After reading the above, I would again suggest the Power Trac. I don't own one but you can turn circles inside of a small barn, clean out stalls that other tractors can't even get into, and while I don't know the loader capacity of each of their models, I'd guess they have what you need. You might want to post your questions on the Power Trac forum. If you can get the Kubota you are using in the small barn you are talking about, then imagine a Power Trac doing a 360 degree turn in the space that it takes to do an awkward 3pt turn, and that is just the beginning of the advantages of the manuverability of the Power Tracs.

Now if you need to do some PLOWING in your fields, then a PT is probably not your tractor. They are great for mowing (much faster than a conventional tractor), they are amazing with a front bucket, better with a snowblower or a front blade, and a host of other jobs.

A Ventrac 4200 or a Steiner 430Max, with Front End Loaders would also work well for you, both would be more expensive choices, but they are MUCH better barn tractors than any Kubota or Deere. The smaller the space you are working in, the bigger the advantage you have with a Ventrac, Steiner or Power Trac.


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Bob Skurka,

I shot down the Power trac in a different post, but in this application you're dead right.

What he is describing is where the articulating machine will shine. However, I don't own one, nor have any idea on reliability.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Bob Skurka,

I shot down the Power trac in a different post, but in this application you're dead right.

What he is describing is where the articulating machine will shine. However, I don't own one, nor have any idea on reliability. )</font>


Yeah, but you were not correct in your assessment of the articulating machines for slopes in your other post, most dedicated slope mowers are in some way articulated (and occilating). I own one, they are amazing.

As far as reliability goes, I don't own a Power Trac, but the guys on the PT Forum seem to think they are pretty durable, they seem to have their share of problems just like every other brand, I know of no brand that is bulletproof and every brand is prone to some problem or another.
 
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The Kioti CK20 will lift 1074 lbs to full height at the pivot pin. Kioti is also coming out with the new CK25 and CK30 machines. They are 25 and 30 hp respectively. They are a larger frame size than the CK20. The CK25 & 30 are a mid-size frame. Both the CK25 & 30 will lift 1155 lbs to full height at pivot pin. From what I read here, the CK25 and 30s are in Kioti's warehouse, but are delayed a little because of some front tire problems. The wrong sizes were sent or something. These machines are really close to hitting dealer lots. All three, the CK20, 25, and 30 are available in hydro. The CK20 also comes in a manual transmission. CK25 and 30 also come in a synchronized shuttle shift. Good luck in your search! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Here is a link to the Kioti CK Series.

Kioti CK Series
 
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Shauna, sounds like you really care for that horse! If he weighs 1000lbs and you are helping him up, I bet that you are closer to 500 Lbs lift... Now, it would be best to be at overkill, but I bet Bob's TC24 would handle it without a shrug.

I would check out the local dealers and see hwo treats you right. Since you already have a machine on loan, you probably already have a good idea what works...
 
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I'm curious if the horse is always in the barn when the lift assist is needed?

If so, and power is available, might an electric hoist something like click here work for you?

How tall is this horse standing? How high would the loader need to lift? What's the overhead clearance in the barn?

Don
 
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I know the 12LA loader on the TC24 is rated at just over 1000 pounds, and it does have a very small frame size which is important for work inside the barn, the TC18 would also do the job just as well and at less money. But for working INSIDE the barn, I'd prefer the Power Trac or Ventrac 4200 (if the lift of that machine is high enough). Going up in frame size would be a disadvantage, so the recommendation of a CK20 (or any similar size unit) would be good too as that is about the same size as the TC class previously mentioned (but moving to the larger units limits turning)

Shoppiingtractors sure has a good idea with using a winch if the location is always inside the barn. Some of the smaller AC winches are pretty inexpensive and if you have access to the rafters you could make sure you had several places inside the barn to mount the winch up to.
 
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I don't know if i'd put a live animal on the end of a loader either!!!is he used to machinery!!!!6 part block or chain hoist..may be better idea..but that will have to be yer decision
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I understand the concern of a live animal on a front loader but this situation is unique. The horse is 28yrs old(I have had him for 24yrs). He is so mellow..and he likes to lay down then when he is ready to get up..after a few hours or so he tries and will just sit up on his butt for a while then spin around to look around then when I come to help if he is laying down, he knows to sit up, I put the sling I had built on him and then position the loader close down to his back and put the rope from the sling around the bucket then walk back and get on the seat of the tractor then I lift slowly and when he feels the pressure he starts to try and get up and I help him . He then knows to stand in place, I get off the tractor, unhook the sling and rope and then he takes off. The bucket is protect by carpet to protect him in case something odd were to happen. I have been doing this for about 5 mos and it really is simple. He is a very mellow horse. Also, I rarely need to pick him up in the barn..but it is a small area..like 25 by 25 feet or so. I have only looked at JD and Kubota so I am really happy to get all these responses and learn about what else is out there.
 
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yer a good momma shawna!!!!!my hat is off to u!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif...actually reminds me of somethin i'd do!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif..got any pics of u and the old boy!!!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Well, I do have photos..just havent had time to post them. I want to thank all for the help. I did finally buy a JD955 w/ 70A FEL like my neighbor has and I really like it. I got a good deal on it (I have priced many) and it needs a little work but it lifts the horse fine and also I really like the size of it and the hydrostatic transmission. Now, I suppose I need to post my questions on the JD forum. I will post a photo of the horse being lifted by the new tractor. Thanks again to all..your great. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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awesome shawna!!!! can't wait to see a pic of u and the ol boy!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif..you've got a heart of gold!! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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Finally, here are a few photos to give you a idea of what I am doing...thanks for the help
 

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I guess I have to post again so here is when I start to lift him..
 

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Gosh, I thought lifting my dogs butt so he can get up the stairs was an effort.

You must be mighty fond of that horse. It's neat that he knows you are helping him and can accept the help without freaking out. Shows how much he trusts you.

Cliff
 
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Once you get your dog up the stairs, how do you get him down? I have a dog that needs help, too and I'm not sure how I would get him down once he is up there.
 
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Shawna,

Are the rear tires on the 955 filled for ballast? If not, I suggest you do that or add a ballast box to the 3PH. I realize your horse is taking most of his own weight, but if he should loose his footing and fall it could upset the tractor if it is not properly ballasted.

Your horse reminds me of our Appaloosa, Shawnee. In his mid to late twenties he had hip joint problems that made it difficult for him to get up once he layed down. He got himself into some difficult spots. It was especially a problem in his stall. Once when I came home the other 2 horse were near the barn and acting very agitated. I couldn't see Shawnee so I walked around the barn and found him laying with his head facing down hill and his rear end under the bottom fence rail. He had slid or worked his way to where his butt was outside the fence and the bottom fence rail was contacting his rib cage. The other 2 horse came trotting up to stand by. I talked to him a bit then went to the house for my cordless screw gun. I told Shawnee to hold still and started removing the fence rails, top rail first. Shawnee just layed there calmly the whole time. Once I removed the bottom rail, I told Shawnee to get up. He struggled to his feet and headed for the barn.

Did I mention that he was blind? He was my wife's first horse. She got him when she was 17 and he was 6. He passed away Christmas Day, 1999 at the age of 29.

I wish the best for you and your horse. I like the part where he sits up like a dog waiting for help.

Jeff
 
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What is the line coming from the bucket back toward the operator station?
 

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